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Old 06-15-2017, 08:34 PM   #251
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Re: socialism has never worked?

I've posted this before:

"I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life-snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.-had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master...One had breathed the air of equality. I am well aware that it is now the fashion to deny that Socialism has anything to do with equality. In every country in the world a huge tribe of party-hacks and sleek little professors are busy 'proving' that Socialism means no more than a planned state-capitalism with the grab-motive left intact. But fortunately there also exists a vision of Socialism quite different from this." George Orwell - Homage to Catalonia

Did you not read it?
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Old 06-21-2017, 11:45 PM   #252
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Re: socialism has never worked?

Chomsky is smart when it comes to linguistics, and such, and that cannot be denied, that is, any more than the lukewarm intellectual following of Chomsky, especially when it comes to politics.

Orwell >>>>> Chomsky on politics.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:52 AM   #253
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Re: socialism has never worked?

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I've posted this before:

"I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life-snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.-had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master...One had breathed the air of equality. I am well aware that it is now the fashion to deny that Socialism has anything to do with equality. In every country in the world a huge tribe of party-hacks and sleek little professors are busy 'proving' that Socialism means no more than a planned state-capitalism with the grab-motive left intact. But fortunately there also exists a vision of Socialism quite different from this." George Orwell - Homage to Catalonia

Did you not read it?
i know that orwell experienced very intresting times in the war against spanish fasim.
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Old Yesterday, 05:55 PM   #254
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Re: socialism has never worked?

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/06/16...wning-signed-/

A poll asking people if the nation would be better or worse off under a socialist government
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Old Yesterday, 06:11 PM   #255
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Re: socialism has never worked?

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Orwell >>>>> Chomsky on politics.
This is like saying the flat legos are better than thick legos. And the object being built is the on-going organic systems of political speech.
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