Sexual assault is a problem in society, and particularly in college campuses. no one denies this. but the Obama administration is coercing colleges into convicting 100s if not 1000s of innocent male students on flimsy charges and poor due process. They make rulings based on preponderance of evidence rather than beyond reasonable doubt which the legal courts use. They convict many students who are not even arrested by the police. there is a presumption of guilt rather than of innocence. If the schools don't follow these proceedings, then the Obama admin threatens to withhold all federal aid, effectively bankrupting the school.

Several students have won lawsuits against the schools for this, but most others dont have the time or resources to fight the rulings. people's lives are being destroyed for the sake of PC culture.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...sexual-assault

Again, we all know there is a problem with sexual assault. women should be protected. but the way to do it is more police presence on campus, more security, and more professional investigations based on the legal system rather than college kangaroo courts run by people with no legal experience.

You needed a new account to post this?

Changed title and it's not getting a

I want to keep it because the problem of date rape, consent etc particularly in colleges is an important topic. I still might change the original post to reflect the topic better and ban OP.

some good reads from both sides. this problem is not going away anytime soon. Stop victimizing both the women and the men!

The Girl Who Cried Rape - Liberal Perspective

http://www.thecrimson.com/column/fem...e-accusations/


The Real RX for Campus Rape - conservative perspective

http://nypost.com/2014/05/06/the-rea...beral-answers/

I typed up a lengthy response and then my browser lost it. So my much shorter version is: the real issue behind this is not that employers and universities can fire/expel people, it's that the legal recourse in civil matters is so often prohibitively expensive and time consuming. And I don't really have a solution to that at present.

Sorry could you clarify what you mean by that?

It's expensive to sue a school who expelled you unfairly.

So what's the required burden of proof for a "conviction" that carries zero legal ramifications?

Title is wrong, should read...

Tenured Liberal-Socialist/SJW Professors: How To Rid The World Of Them

This seems like the right standard to me. Why would colleges want to keep people on campus when the evidence shows that they are more likely guilty of assault than not guilty of assault?

The criminal justice system can have the accused thrown in prison. It seems entirely reasonable that they would have a higher burden of proof than a university who can only expel.

because it totally screws the defendant. imagine getting kicked out of college for that—then what are you supposed to do? no other school will want you, and any job you apply for is going to see that. i wont say it ruins your life, but it's close.

you could make the same argument of deporting americans or jailing them because they probably did whatever crime. we have the standard of proving beyond a reasonable doubt for a reason—people who aren't guilty get ****ed way too hard way too often if not.

Umm...no. Jobs aren't going to see that, neither will other colleges. What job is going to find out you cheated on a college exam and got expelled? What other college will be able to figure that out of you don't tell them? There is no increase in punishment whether you are expelled for being a rapist vs being a cheater. Why should there be some super special snowflake proceedings for sexual assault?

Edit: I guess some colleges will out you were expelled in their transcripts and some don't. Still doesn't prevent you from going to a new school.

So do you think universities shouldn't be able to expel students? I mean for anything.

The alternative is leaving a bunching of people who are likely sexual predators on campuses.