...or an unmodded one.

We have two far leaning liberals on the main forum and two far left mods in P7 that has even allowed the snowflakes not to have to read a Breitbart link as it is too offensive to them.

It is time to have a conservative forum.

Talking about snowflakes...

*it's
*have even allowed

Guessing this is...adios? With an outside chance of mongidig, though that would require him figuring out the internets enough to make a second account.

Adios still seeking a safe space to disparage Mexicans makes sense.

Yes, because P7 and SMP aren't enough, we need a third forum to discuss how much you hate minorities.

Go back to 8 chan or stormfront if you're tired of being banned for hating minorities.

It's ironic that the coservatives are the minoriy on ths forum.

like rain on your wedding day

Conservatives are busy enough ruining Politics 7.0 as it is.

Dear Conservative,

I took I huge stand when I first started posting because linking to breitbart was prohibited. I was ultimately banned for protesting the prohibition of linking to breitbart by openly posting links to breitbart in defiance of the rules. I wanted to link to them because I was asserting that they are a garbage site with zero credibility, because they post falsehoods. I was linking to specific articles along with critical analyses of them from legitimate publications.

Primarily because of this incident, I'm quite certain, or at the bare minimum partially because of it, linking to breitbart is now allowed again. You're welcome.

Sincerely,

A bleeding heart commie liberal.

On one hand i really love that people want to stay on twoplustwo.com in order to discuss every topic. And when the requested topics and special forums are for things like food or music or movies or animals or cars or computers or any one of hundreds of things that people like to talk about, I do my best to encourage the creation of new forums to discuss these things.

But discussions about politics wind up horrifying me, because they just wind up bringing out the worst in people. So for this one topic, I really wish people went someplace else to discuss it.

The ONLY reason we have two politics forums is because it winds up allowing me to essentially ignore both of them. This forum is on it's last incarnation. There are two moderators. One or the other can go and the place survives. If they both go, for any reason, so goes this version.

Short answer to op: no. If you feel stifled on this site about politics, please take this one particular topic and discuss it somewhere else. Chalk it up to incompetence on my part if you like. I honestly don't know how the politcs forums can be modded better, so forcing change isn't going to be the answer for me.

Discussion of politics can bring out the good in people as well, such as people deciding to create a disaster fund to help victims of things like natural disasters or terrorist attacks.

I think one of the biggest problems with the world is people no longer learn and know how to properly debate. How to do things like avoid logical fallacies, provide citations for assertions they make, even how to do simple things like stay on topic.

But politics can indeed bring out the worst in people. In cases like that I think people that have fallen to the brink just need to step away and focus on things like education and self improvement. Long breaks can do wonders for the soul.

As far as how this forum could be modded better, apparently the most recent thing chezlaw did was ban someone, and then lie about why they were banned in the list of mod actions. The forum could be modded better by having a moderator that was honest and held accountable. chezlaw is not. He's not held accountable because you don't care about the forum, and I completely understand and do not fault you for that. The problem is that other people do care about it, and the only way he is held accountable is through the action of an administrator, which in this case would be you, so there's nothing that can be done when posters are wronged by the moderator, or when he just makes asinine decisions again and again.

I've seen you state several times that you just don't care about the forum, meaning you're completely indifferent to it. Totally fine, but if that's the case then why should this be the last incarnation?

Too bad, I was looking forward to my stint as Unchainedp7.0aalt.politics mod sometime mid-next year.

The problem with politics is the fact that it's become a team sport (I mostly blame cable news). Both sides are rarely able to admit when something their team has done is ****ed up. Neither side seems willing to concede that ultimately, both sides want what's best for the country (citizens at least, politicians seem most interested in what's in their own best interest).

If there were a third politics forum for conservatives, why would anyone think you'd be less hilarious there?

Let's talk to Mat. Maybe he's a Republican, and business is business like in Kelly's Heros, lol.

Lol, no way was 2+2 ever going to be able to survive the recent spate of Islamic terror attacks across Europe and not have to close its uncensored forum.

This forum hasn't ever been uncensored but it hasn't been unchained since prior to your joining.

So wait, you mean like the "forced change" that occured when a bunch of snowflakes ganged up and used their sensitive feelings as leverage to go from an unchained forum to a forum run by a bunch of sensoring foreigners who are used to their suppressive gubmints and nonexistant freedom of speech which in turn allows them to use their powers to suppress and control members of this USA#1 forum?

This forum sucks anymore and its because of the Mellennial/PC/Entitlememt/Trophy Generation, the conservative business folk (lolironically enough) & the Foreign Sheep that infest this site.

Revolution is the only answer imho...nerds heads must roll

What a ray of sunshine!

It's not clear to me if people genuinely feel like they cannot express conservative viewpoints, or if they merely want a place to spew racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, and calls to violence. There's nothing at all wrong with conservative viewpoints, even if they are super right wing. But if they are of the aforementioned variety, that kind of **** shouldn't be welcome here.

Problem is, there are people on here who truly believe that many very 'soft' Conservative viewpoints are de-facto racist/sexist.

eg.

- The belief that there should be more support for ex-Muslims implies that Islam has a problem with apostates.

- The belief that the job market is a meritocracy and isn't racist implies that black people's relative 'failings' are their own 'fault' etc.

- The belief that the pay gap is down to women's choices rather than discrimination implies that women are naturally less career-driven and more family-oriented which many consider inherently sexist.

etc.etc.

Wat.


Well, we have empirical evidence that the job market is racially discriminatory. People who deny this evidence are either racist or stupid. They are also sensitive snowflakes who whine when this is pointed out to them.

Idk I think the whole religious conversion stuff is more suited to RGT, don't you?

Are users being banned or infracted for expressing:

The belief that there should be more support for ex-Muslims

The belief that the job market is a meritocracy and isn't racist

The belief that the pay gap is down to women's choices rather than

?

My point exactly. Most leftists truly believe that anyone who disagrees with their dogma *must*, by definition, be racist or stupid.

There's no way that an unbiased forum could survive on 2+2