Buhbuh probably thinks Trump beat Hillary in the debates too. He probably thinks "you're the puppet" and making jokes about how Rubio drank some water or w/e aren't things that only a complete idiot would do in a debate.

I think Bernie could have done a lot better than this common debate exchange, which I thought was pretty terrible

Trump : lies

Hillary : small chuckle, haha, well, thats not true, go to hillaryclinton.com if you want to know more about that

She never slammed him in spots where she should have. I feel like Bernie might have been a bit better than that, he's a lot better on the broken record type message

I got to assume he is trolling otherwise the other option is not good.

That made me cringe when she did that. Google it! Really Hillary.

Jeff Sessions also perjured himself in confirmation hearings but he has not resigned. Nothing like that ever took place in Obama's admin. In fact, multiple members of 45*'s admin have been caught lying or failing to disclose key information in their hearings:

5 Trump Cabinet Members Who’ve Made False Statements to Congress
https://www.propublica.org/article/f...ts-to-congress

Did you not see where I made some serious allegations regarding Obama's attacks on civil rights? We can talk about the corporate Lawyer Eric Holder as well. His notion of "sanity and equity to punishments" means corporate criminals get to keep everything they stole. And we can talk about what the Obama administration didn't do while policing warped into some kind of racist terror campaign in front of our eyes.

But first let's talk about the structure of this discussion so far. My outline of it is like this:

Me: Obama attacked civil rights on a fundamental level.
You: Citation needed.
Me: Ok let's start with this (gives citation).
You: Jeff Sessions is a very, very, very bad man!

Am I just that rare gifted human being who knows that to hold your ground in an argument you have to address the reasonable points the other person is making against your argument? Is that arcane knowledge that I am fortunate to have? Because what I see in this forum (as well as daily life) is posters letting devastating points against their argument stand while thinking they are schooling the other guy.

Person 1: Wow that Obama is a bad guy. A video came out of him stomping a baby. How is this guy breathing free air?
Person 2: Obama pushed for gay marriage eventually when it had enough popular support. He's awesome and so am I for dropping that knowledge bomb on you.

You're kind of being like Person 2 here.

You haven't figured out einbert is just a meme spambot yet?

If we're taking shots at Eric Holder, he defended Chiquita Banana when they hired a right wing paramilitary group (death squads - on the US terrorist list) in Colombia to murder peasants in the countryside who stood in their way. He got them off with a fine.

When you're dishonest the core you see whatever you want to see.

Like how someone can look at a president who's poised to take a giant steaming dump on free trade and see him as a champion of economic growth. It's the epitome of putting distributional issues above wealth creation.

Good thing / bad thing? Who knows. Trump definitely doesn't. The working class people who revere him as a business god sure don't. His advisers may, just like clintons advisors may have been effective despite her being useless.

But you're suggesting that the general public will get hard for trump 4 years from now because of economic indicators that're weakly correlated to the decisions made by a president? You know that makes no sense. This is pointless speculation.


The pollsters were wrong because they were overly confident in their methods, and they ended up off by about 5 points in a couple of key states, pretty close to the mark in a lot of others and in some states clinton outperformed. Polls aren't perfect. But they aren't meaningless and bernie was beating trump by significantly larger margins in hypothetical polls during the primaries.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dat...ton-or-n570766

It was clinton winning the popular vote by 5 vs bernie winning the popular vote by 13 at some arbitrary point in time. And this is despite the DNC trying to crush him to make way for clinton. We'll never know what the real numbers would have been but there's no evidence that he'd be lacking popular support.

He's only the most popular politician in America right now but how the **** could he ever beat Trump

This. Not democrats, but the leaders of the democratic party are all puppets. Therefore..

I noticed some of those tendencies. But I am a little slow on figuring out what posters are like. I tend to take things post by post and give people the benefit of the doubt. I think the only poster who I instantly knew everything about was Gamblor.

I think the leadership are more like agents and the rank and file are more like the puppets getting played.

Though one never knows for sure how much the average democrat understands. It would be great to know whether or not the rank and file democrats actually believe their own bull****. Perhaps the promotion of Hillary proves that they do not? Is the party now just a huge charade of lip service to the underprivileged held together by partisan hatred of conservatives by wealthier democrats ensuring their privileges?

Willing to bet on this?

What are the democrats thinking with Obama accepting 400k from bankers for a speech? He is so brazen in accepting his first kickback balloon check that I don't see how rank and file democrats are not outraged. He is clearly being paid for policy positions he took. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind about that?

Every day I understand the Revolution Francaise a little bit more.

They claimed a few weeks ago in court that anyone voting in the primaries should understand the bylaws were changed so that their input was not really welcome. No one should be surprised.