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Old 01-24-2017, 07:59 PM   #101
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Thumbs up to Trump for proceeding with the Keystone and Dakota pipelines. This will add thousands of jobs, 3 billion to our GDP, and protect against highly fluctuating gas prices. This is actually a safer way of transporting oil compared to rail car.

Thumbs down. Trump bringing up that Millions of illegal immigrants voted for Clinton. Trump has a huge ego and I would expect comments like this from time to time. I think he will learn to avoid these situations better. Approximately 20% of the questions to Sean Spicer today dealt with this.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:00 PM   #102
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That's because real people care that their President is a yuge liar.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:02 PM   #103
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Trump so far has done every initial step of a fascist when one gets in power. The only question is how far he'll actually go with it since he's definitely not a workaholic. We're all off to a bad start for fans of not living in an autocracy.

I haven't read TPP but Russia and China wanted us to leave TPP so that alone seems safe to presume us leaving it is bad.
No, wrong on every point.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:04 PM   #104
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The TTP isn't even a thing yet. Congres hasn't even passed it.

It favors some groups in this country and but others not so much. If he creates another trade agreement which is more favorable to the US then this will be a good thing.
There is no doubt John Q Citizen can get a better deal than what TPP gives them.
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Old 01-24-2017, 10:53 PM   #105
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Was there any hope of TPP if clinton won what with republican congress and all? Serious question
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Old 01-24-2017, 10:56 PM   #106
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I thought she came out against it during the campaign after Bernie called her out on it?
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Old 01-24-2017, 11:05 PM   #107
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I thought she came out against it during the campaign after Bernie called her out on it?
She did.
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Old 01-25-2017, 12:49 AM   #108
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Old 01-25-2017, 12:53 AM   #109
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If there were 3-5 million fraudulent votes, maybe the election should be declared null and void. We can't know that fraudulent votes didn't put Trump over the top.


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Old 01-25-2017, 01:04 AM   #110
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Was there any hope of TPP if clinton won what with republican congress and all? Serious question
I think there was a good chance it would have passed during the lame duck. Also, remember that most support for TPP in Congress comes from Republicans, not Democrats.
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:38 AM   #111
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No one doubts his patriotism or that he wants to make America better. That doesn't excuse his constant lies. Constant, stupid, obvious lies.
But he is a populist. Isn't that your safety net?
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:43 AM   #112
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She did.
Not really, she wanted to change some of the provisions. That was code for I actually support it but I will take a politically expedient stance.
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:59 AM   #113
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If there were 3-5 million fraudulent votes, maybe the election should be declared null and void. We can't know that fraudulent votes didn't put Trump over the top.


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Crowd size, fraudulent votes, Kellyanne dishonesty, and what have you being focus points of the media and the left. Meanwhile, the pace of the change that TRUMP is bringing about is incredible. For instance why aren't guys standing up for TPP, explaining why deregulation is a bad thing, why TRUMP's tax reform agenda is a bad thing, the pipelines are bad, and a whole host of other issues? Really I think TRUMP creates theses irrelevant distractions on purpose for obvious reasons.

Jonathan Karl actually asked Spicer if it was the TRUMP administration's intention is to tell the truth. No what is Spicer supposed to say, "No Jonathan we plan to lie and obfuscate as much as possible."

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Old 01-25-2017, 07:51 AM   #114
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Trump expected to order temporary ban on refugees

This would be nice. Importing 3rd world fanatics is very low energy.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:12 AM   #115
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Crowd size, fraudulent votes, Kellyanne dishonesty, and what have you being focus points of the media and the left. Meanwhile, the pace of the change that TRUMP is bringing about is incredible. For instance why aren't guys standing up for TPP, explaining why deregulation is a bad thing, why TRUMP's tax reform agenda is a bad thing, the pipelines are bad, and a whole host of other issues? Really I think TRUMP creates theses irrelevant distractions on purpose for obvious reasons.
and the media falls for it every time. he still has them talking about irrelevant things like inauguration crowd size, as if even if he were lying about it, that anybody would care. trump has already kept more of his campaign promises in the first 5 days than hillary would have in 4 years. thats the only thing that voters care about.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:41 AM   #116
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and the media falls for it every time. he still has them talking about irrelevant things like inauguration crowd size, as if even if he were lying about it, that anybody would care. trump has already kept more of his campaign promises in the first 5 days than hillary would have in 4 years. thats the only thing that voters care about.
The word irrelevant is the key. Trump would much rather people be talking about these things than questioning what policy moves he is making. It's like throwing a screen pass against an overly aggressive defense. He knows the media is looking to pounce. Your right, the media falls for it everytime as do many on this forum.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:45 AM   #117
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Spicer was correct in saying this was the most watched Inaugural. Add up All the social media and News outlets. This was also the highest rated Inaugural. Don't forget,people needed tickets This year and the security was extremely tight.
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:02 AM   #118
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Spicer was correct in saying this was the most watched Inaugural. Add up All the social media and News outlets. This was also the highest rated Inaugural. Don't forget,people needed tickets This year and the security was extremely tight.
Plus in DC he only got 4% of the vote and I think the closest county he won was 45 miles away. So he wasn't gonna draw much from the home team.
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:55 AM   #119
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No one doubts his patriotism or that he wants to make America better. That doesn't excuse his constant lies. Constant, stupid, obvious lies.
Cite?
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Old 01-25-2017, 12:43 PM   #120
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not tired of winning, but getting a little overwhelmed. maybe slow the pace just a little Mr. President.
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:02 PM   #121
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Cite?
Read the ****ing news
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:28 PM   #122
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lol at thinking TRUMP! complains about media coverage of the crowd size as a distraction. Just lolololololol........
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:42 PM   #123
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Read the ****ing news
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:42 PM   #124
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Building that wall, baby! That's how it's done. Gotta have some borders, countries matter. Especially ours.
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Old 01-25-2017, 05:43 PM   #125
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Great argument
How about you list all the things he hasn't lied about since the inauguration that are in the news?
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