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Old 01-23-2017, 11:04 AM   #51
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:09 AM   #52
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What has happened recently to make you think Trump has any grasp of reality?
Donald Trump is President!!

I think it's time for you to grasp this reality.
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:19 AM   #53
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Are you really this dense?

Do everyone a favor and move to Russia, you'll fit right in
Putin's Puppet is in the white house, why should I move?
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:22 AM   #54
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Um who cares how many people were at his inauguration? This is gutter politics driven by an ever increasing desperate media and those on the left.
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I couldn't agree more. Amazing what petty lengths these people will resort to to try and besmirch every single ****ing thing Trump does. I just read a Slate article about his awful signature, lol wtf. I think most people see through it, I hope.
Then why is Trump lying about it? You're right, it doesn't matter how many people were at the inauguration what does matter is having an administration in power that feels they have to lie about it.
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:23 AM   #55
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Donald Trump is President!!

I think it's time for you to grasp this reality.
Yes he is and I look forward to 4 years of him telling us this over and over again while campaigning for a job he already has.
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Old 01-23-2017, 02:02 PM   #56
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Putin's Puppet is in the white house, why should I move?
because you keep incessantly bitching
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Old 01-23-2017, 02:13 PM   #57
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I'm hoping we all can put aside our bias and objectively analyze what we observe.
You must not have read this part of the thread Kerowo.
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Old 01-23-2017, 02:35 PM   #58
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I couldn't agree more. Amazing what petty lengths these people will resort to to try and besmirch every single ****ing thing Trump does.
Three questions:
1. When Sean Spicer goes up to the podium and litigates the crowd size issue for several minutes, ultimately saying "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe", what do you think the media - whose job it is to report on the WH - should do about that? Apparently the answer isn't "report on it", so I'm curious.

2. Trump clearly thinks crowd sizes matter a lot, why is it petty for people to engage him on things he totally wants to argue about?

3. Do you not think it's noteworthy that the President is sending out his press secretary to lie to the public about something so trivial and easily falsifiable on day one?
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Old 01-23-2017, 02:46 PM   #59
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This rally feminists were 100% organized Clinton. She will not allow to Trump to work quietly. I personally like it very much. It really is a smart guy and says real things that will lead the country into order.
You could do with a few more English lessons, comrade.
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Old 01-23-2017, 03:05 PM   #60
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You could do with a few more English lessons, comrade.
You could be more culturally sensitive!
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:17 PM   #61
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Three questions:
1. When Sean Spicer goes up to the podium and litigates the crowd size issue for several minutes, ultimately saying "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe", what do you think the media - whose job it is to report on the WH - should do about that? Apparently the answer isn't "report on it", so I'm curious.

2. Trump clearly thinks crowd sizes matter a lot, why is it petty for people to engage him on things he totally wants to argue about?

3. Do you not think it's noteworthy that the President is sending out his press secretary to lie to the public about something so trivial and easily falsifiable on day one?
Spicer very eloquently addressed all of those questions in todays press conference. You should watch it when you get a chance.
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:27 PM   #62
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I watched it live. He didn't address #1 or #2.

Regarding #3, Spicer claims he was misinterpreted and never claimed the in-person crowd was the largest ever. It's hard to believe him, given that at the time he made those claims, he cited completely incorrect ridership numbers (he said more people rode the DC metro for Trump's inauguration than for Obama's; that is not true) to support the in-person claim. Why would he have done so if he was apparently never trying to suggest that Trump's crowd was the largest?

(if you want to say that the above also answers #1, then #1 could just as easily apply to Trump making the outlandish claim that 1.5 million people were at the inauguration earlier in the day - what would you, and kioshk, prefer the media to do with that, since the answer appears to be something besides "report on it"?)
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Old 01-23-2017, 04:41 PM   #63
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I watched it live. He didn't address #1 or #2.

Regarding #3, Spicer claims he was misinterpreted and never claimed the in-person crowd was the largest ever. It's hard to believe him, given that at the time he made those claims, he cited completely incorrect ridership numbers (he said more people rode the DC metro for Trump's inauguration than for Obama's; that is not true) to support the in-person claim. Why would he have done so if he was apparently never trying to suggest that Trump's crowd was the largest?

(if you want to say that the above also answers #1, then #1 could just as easily apply to Trump making the outlandish claim that 1.5 million people were at the inauguration earlier in the day - what would you, and kioshk, prefer the media to do with that, since the answer appears to be something besides "report on it"?)
Not sure what you watched? He addressed question one at length and very satisfactorily. Question 2 isn't even a question but simply your opinion which you are welcome to.
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Old 01-23-2017, 05:23 PM   #64
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I watched the press conference. You're welcome to give your own responses to my questions in lieu of just asserting without any evidence that they were answered. Given that they're directed at posters ITT like you and kioshk, I'm not sure how you can suggest that Sean Spicer of all people answered them and told us how you feel (unless how you feel at any given moment is simply whatever Sean Spicer tells you to feel, which I would understand I guess).

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Question 2 isn't even a question
Uh, yes it is. Why is it petty to engage Trump on things that he thinks are important enough to talk about in speeches and press conferences?
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Old 01-23-2017, 05:40 PM   #65
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Spicer very eloquently addressed all of those questions in todays press conference. You should watch it when you get a chance.
He did a great job today!
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:07 PM   #66
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Which part?
The report was hand wrapped in tinfoil before being delivered to McCain, imo. You can look at the thread started by Jiggs on it.
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:08 PM   #67
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Um who cares how many people were at his inauguration? This is gutter politics driven by an ever increasing desperate media and those on the left.
The president seems to be very concerned as he mentioned it in his first post innauguration speech then has the first wh press briefing about only this issue. Then it is brought up again in the first whps press conference.

Seems like Trump cares about it more than anyone.
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:46 PM   #68
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:29 PM   #69
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Old 01-23-2017, 08:05 PM   #70
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Uh, yes it is. Why is it petty to engage Trump on things that he thinks are important enough to talk about in speeches and press conferences?
If he thinks petty issues are important enough to talk about in speeches then I don't think anything we do can will prevent it remaining petty.

More importantly it's distracting people who must have something more useful to do and report on. That seems to be his mo though I'm not sure it's calculated - he may well actually be that petty and ridiculous.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:54 PM   #71
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NYT: In Meeting With Congressional Leaders, Trump Falsely Blames Illegal Immigrants for Loss of Popular Vote

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President Trump used his first official meeting with congressional leaders on Monday to gripe about his loss of the popular vote, falsely telling the lawmakers that he would have won a majority if millions of illegal immigrants had not voted against him.

The claim, which he has made before on Twitter, has been judged to be untrue by numerous fact-checkers. But the new president’s willingness to bring it up at Monday’s White House reception in the State Dining Room is an indication that he remains focused on his election even assuming power.

Mr. Trump won 304 electoral votes to capture the presidency, but he fell almost three million votes short of Hillary Clinton in the popular vote. That reality appears to have bothered the president since Election Day, prompting him to repeatedly complain that adversaries were trying to undermine his legitimacy.
mrbaseball, kioshk, other Trumpkins: is this also going to "petty lengths" to try to discredit Trump? When he says plainly false things like this, is the media supposed to just ignore it?
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:03 AM   #72
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Three questions:
1. When Sean Spicer goes up to the podium and litigates the crowd size issue for several minutes, ultimately saying "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe", what do you think the media - whose job it is to report on the WH - should do about that? Apparently the answer isn't "report on it", so I'm curious.

2. Trump clearly thinks crowd sizes matter a lot, why is it petty for people to engage him on things he totally wants to argue about?

3. Do you not think it's noteworthy that the President is sending out his press secretary to lie to the public about something so trivial and easily falsifiable on day one?
i think Trump was trolling
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:29 AM   #73
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What is the point of the president "trolling?"
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:55 AM   #74
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Trump is just havin' fun out there, riling up the haters and whatnot. Think big picture, that's what Trump does. Somewhat like Reagan in that way.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:55 AM   #75
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Why?

The lies over the weekend: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/u...ouse.html?_r=0

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