This may be a specifically English thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that only the brits here have heard of this. Given monodigit's name it seems likely people are not intentionally using a misspelling as a way to slur the mentally subnormal. However, if it's a well know thing, which I think you've proven it to be, I don't see any problem erring on the side of caution and educating people at the same time. Though, do take care not to punish people if their autocorrect happens to be the culprit.

You could compromise and call him a spastic or a reject.

chez, the basic problem is that mongoiliditig or wtf his name is chose a name that's very hard to remember correctly, and mush easier to abbreviate to its first four characters.

If you'd named yourself chavjkwqigitid or spudjkwqigitid you might reasonably expect people to refer to you here as chav or spud.

Anyway, it's great that you're concerned about possible interpretations of people's necessarily abbreviated screen names, and turn a blind eye to implicit racism.

The 'conversations are steered' in a direction towards prejudice-free content, which is why dozens of your "What do women have to complain about when they can use their sexuality and a short fat balding middle aged guy like me can't?" drivel posts were deleted.

No blind eye is being turned and I do feel you're overreacting to being asked to stop using the non PC abbreviation even if was entirely innocent.

This is more in line with a philosophical debate. Saying something was "******ed" when I was growing up was everyday language. People were not offended, at least in the way they are now, no one thought anything of it. The same thing as describing something as "gay".

That being said, we must recognize the fact that language changes over time and phrases or words mean different things during different eras. Just as the word "Paddy Wagon" (never thought about that word, did you?) may be perceived as very different years ago than it is today.

The question is, where and when do we draw the lines, and who makes that decision? That's why this forum has such a huge issue right now. When you let others define what is offensive, then everyone can simply claim they are offended.

Hence, why so many people are sick of political correctness. In my opinion, rightfully so.

Wil - that includes the same misunderstanding I addressed with Juan. It's nothing to do with who here is offended. Lots of very offensive language - by which I mean language that caused real harm to groups who suffer from prejudice and discrimination - was common when I was young. The PC movement addressed a big chunk of it and that was a damn good thing.

Yes PC is a bit irritating but that's not much of a price to pay. There's always been bitter complaints about it, much of it seems a big overreaction to something not very onerous, but despite that it's very effective and it remains far more effective overall then attacking people (imo anyway)

This is debatable. Just a few years ago, I could use that word when talking to certain friends. I now do not use that word in any context, in almost any company, because it has become toxic. The same can be said of "******ed". We can make good arguments for and against, but it very much is dependent on the person who is offended, not the person saying it. "The N word" was commonly used very recently by all racial groups. Today, it is not. The meaning of the word didn't change at all, the people offended by it did.

To use other examples, the word "paki" is deeply offensive in some places. In America, we (or at least, I) are completely unaware of this. I had no idea it was even a word, much less an offensive word, and didn't understand WHY it was offensive. I would suspect the word "Jap" would be received with the same confusion outside of the United States.

That's exactly the idea. Mostly the terms haven't changed their meaning. Instead,what has happened is that society has become more sensitive to the use terms that cause harm to groups that suffer from prejudice and discrimination. That's the triumph of PC even if the job isn't complete yet.

Yes we get it wrong at times and sometimes it's confusing and a bit vague. So what?

Sounds very reasonable. At the time I made the original post about it, it hadn't occurred to me that it wasn't obvious why I was bringing it up.

"So what" means I literally can't voice my opinion. You have a PC bias towards "vulnerable" groups which means pretty much "whatever the mod thinks at that time". Let me give you a good example. Which, below, are "offensive"?

Women bear children.
Women are better suited to raise children.
Women, in general, are better suited interacting with children more than men.
Women tend to be more responsible for the household than men.

There are people who are not offended by any of the statements and people who are offended by each statement. Very few people will have issue with the first statement. But what if a transgender female who identifies as male had issue with the reference? Then what, we have to classify the first statement as offensive?

It's complete and total idiocy to the point where we can't even voice an opinion on something. Again, I literally can't participate in the gender wage gap thread because a dickhead like whosnext will delete my posts. We literally can't find truth due to political correctness. It's absurdity at the highest levels. If you can shut down people from making a statement like "women want more flexibility than men due to the demands of raising a child" then there is no debate, one side automatically wins because the other argument is effectively inadmissable.

This is why political correctness is completely insane. We can't even have a discussion due to the repercussions of people stating their opinions. So just close the thread and declare that women are oppressed and all companies have to pay all men and women the same amount of money regardless of any other factors

It's compete and total insanity.

Ok the 'so what' was about avoiding certain word and phrases.

Yes you have to be careful with generalisations and opinions about groups that suffer from prejudice and discrimination. I appreciate you don't like that but even if you disagree I hope you can understand it's because of a belief that perpetuating some stereotypes/views is harmful. These generalisations don't really contribute to any debate unless they are fact based - in which case they are allowed.

You could participate fairly easily if you really wanted to but If you really need to post your opinions on such things as 'what women are like' without any concern for the PC rules then sorry.

Yes, you prove my point. The problem lies on your end, not mine. I know the truth. Others don't. The difference between us is I can listen to both sides and make my conclusion. The others can't because the arguments against literally don't count.

Total and compete idiocy which hurts each and every one of us as human beings. The only thing that matters is truth, and when feelings are more important than truth we are heading down a path of destruction as a species. The end game is literally the destruction of entire groups of people.

How you people don't realize this is amazing to me. We are doomed to keep repeating our mistakes as human beings forever, and us perpetually killing each other over ideas must just be inevitable.

That's enough for a while. I'll be gone for a few weeks. Hopefully things will change one day in this forum. Until then, I suppose. Good luck Chez.

You keep threatening to leave, but we both know you'll come crawling back like you did this last time. It's like crack for you. You're a crackhead. You'll come back for your crack. Because crack is yummy. Love you some crack. Now get back to sucking that pipe like you know you wants your precious.

I never once seen someone announce that they're leaving 2p2 and actually leave. They're back within days like 100% of the time.

I think the fabled BruceZ counts for this. Possibly with an asterisk. Also LordJVK. Those are the only two I can think of.

I'm not "announcing" anything at all. I'm simply stating why I don't participate, in detail. Maybe I'll change my mind one day, but I doubt it. Why you people are perceiving it as some sort of threat of me leaving 2+2 (which I've never once said) is strange. Trust me, I firmly believe you'll somehow manage without me posting here.

Typical 2+2 idiocy. Drive away posters and declare victory. This website is the only one where it seems getting rid of its own user base is the goal. Many of the people driven away are worth dozens of regular posters in terms of value of perspective. Someone like Juan is worth 30 regulars. Not even close.

That being said people like you hold more value than many others, but you tend to support the groupthink so it simply doesn't count as much.

JvK announced he was leaving like five separate times and generally he was back within a half hour.

I guess I only saw it the last time :P

wil: I'm going to need to you to tell my value in juan-units. Thanks in advance

Wil sais "that's enough for a while" and you act like he is making a big threat to leave. I don't think Wil is the one "sucking the pipe":

I don't think Bruce ever announced he was leaving. I don't recall him doing so and at some point I was pointing out that he had already left.

Are you still blubbering because someone called you a Mong?

Interesting question. Due to your side, your value is definitely lower. If you were arguing against the groupthink, I'd say you would be just as valuable, if not more due to your meticulous use of grammar.

Since you are always on the non confrontational side of everything I'd say you are worth 5 regs, so .16 juans. One sixth of his value may seem harsh but courage against groupthink means a lot in the valuation.

I thought mongs is the plural of mongoose.