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03-19-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
this is true. studies show that a muslim has a better chance at getting elected in the USA than an atheist. just think about that. who's being prejudged?
Actually i think they switched over the last few years because of the unjust hysteria around Muslims.
03-19-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
Just treat Breitbart like any other Neo-Nazi website. I don't get how this is hard.
I disagree that's how Breitbart should be treated but that's not really relevant here. It's only hard because the mods say that Breitbart can't be linked to but articles can be quoted and discussed. Makes no sense. I mean is that how chezfront would deal with Stormfront content? Maybe, who knows, it's obviously impossible to tell since the mods won't actually answer straightforward questions about their rules.
03-19-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
The rich, the middle class, atheists, arsenal supporters, mods, politicians, celebrities, christians, men, adults, ...
Going to rent an airplane to have a #chezout banner
03-19-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
All of them aren't protected groups. Even the one that was an attempt at humour.

pretty sure this is a misconception but can you explain what you mean better.
as someone who felt they should be a political forum moderator, you created rules and are enforcing them. this is a moderation thread, where we discuss moderation

you have created a rule about vulnerable and protected groups. the question i asked is very straightforward and obviously deserves an explanation. so far we have determined that straight white and asian men don't fall in to the protected and vulnerable group category. who else? you already made your funny jokes the first time i asked this question, now could you please share with us the rules to which you moderate?
03-19-2017 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Actually i think they switched over the last few years because of the unjust hysteria around Muslims.
yeah thats possible but that change would have been very recent
03-19-2017 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
as someone who felt they should be a political forum moderator, you created rules and are enforcing them. this is a moderation thread, where we discuss moderation

you have created a rule about vulnerable and protected groups. the question i asked is very straightforward and obviously deserves an explanation. so far we have determined that straight white and asian men don't fall in to the protected and vulnerable group category. who else? you already made your funny jokes the first time i asked this question, now could you please share with us the rules to which you moderate?
The list was genuine. Generally any non self-selected group that is significantly disadvantaged due to prejudice or discrimination is covered by the PC rules. The rest aren't.

There's no list written in stone although most are well known and are not going to change without a great deal of political progress. Still, it's all up for discussion and input from users but in the end the mods decide.
03-19-2017 , 02:23 PM
Hey juan quixote, why don't you pitch in on the fight for equal rights for all? Then one day your dream of there needing to be no protected groups can be realized.
03-19-2017 , 08:55 PM
But then who will his 'common sense' tell him he's superior to?
03-22-2017 , 07:45 AM
What's the difference between Politics and Politics 7.0?

Who misses politics unchained? I didn't post here back then, but atleast the rules didn't favor one party.

In "Politics" forum anyone who opposes the PC and childish resistance movement gets attacked by the thought police mob. Wild unsubstantiated claims and libel about Trump & his associates go unpunished, but any bad word about the democrats can result in a ban.


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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
So women are a vulnerable group? There is half the worlds population. Muslims are a protected group? Might as well say all religion groups are vulnerable group and any and all minorities that live in the west.

Also atheists are a vulnerable group as they make up a small percentage of the population. And of course LGQT...whatever are a vulnerable group.


This whole PC **** is ******ed and you can say everyone falls into one category or another. This forum is really starting to suck.
Good question. It's the people who believe in identity politics who are actually racists. Don't judge a man by the content of his character, but by the..

Last edited by kypreanus; 03-22-2017 at 07:54 AM.
03-22-2017 , 07:56 AM
Attacks on the user are not allowed in Content threads - report any that you receive rather than responding please.

Yes you have to be PC but you don't have to worry about a ban - anyone who really can't follow the PC or 'dont make it about the user' rules receives timeouts from thread(s). That doesn't ban them from 2+2 or usually even from the rest of this forum - only abusing the timeouts earns temp bans.

We also have the !!! threads where you can have a go at users - you still have to be PC but that leaves plenty of insults available.

The 'good question' was answered above.
03-22-2017 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Attacks on the user are not allowed in Content threads - report any that you receive rather than responding please.

Yes you have to be PC but you don't have to worry about a ban - anyone who really can't follow the PC or 'dont make it about the user' rules receives timeouts from thread(s). That doesn't ban them from 2+2 or usually even from the rest of this forum - only abusing the timeouts earns temp bans.

We also have the !!! threads where you can have a go at users - you still have to be PC but that leaves plenty of insults available.

The 'good question' was answered above.
Thanks for your reply.

So as per defnition, political parties can decide themselves what is politically incorrect, and thus not worthy of discussion, like e.g. immigration before Trump brought it up?

It also means that the boundary what can be discused is constantly shifting, and the rule being vague.

The whole term PC is bad for discussion. It should be replaced with something like "be civil, act decent". Mao's PC legacy lives on.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/worlds-mo...mass-murderer/


Plus what's the difference between these two forums?

Last edited by kypreanus; 03-22-2017 at 09:06 AM.
03-22-2017 , 08:53 AM
Or you may just have an idiot mod delete all your posts if they are "offended". Maybe whosnext needs a teddy bear to hold on to.
03-22-2017 , 09:06 AM
Who's the baby for still crying about some brainless sexist posts deleted days ago?

A mod was doing his job in keeping a thread on topic and clear of non-PC drivel.
03-22-2017 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kypreanus
What's the difference between Politics and Politics 7.0?

Who misses politics unchained? I didn't post here back then, but atleast the rules didn't favor one party.

In "Politics" forum anyone who opposes the PC and childish resistance movement gets attacked by the thought police mob. Wild unsubstantiated claims and libel about Trump & his associates go unpunished, but any bad word about the democrats can result in a ban.




Good question. It's the people who believe in identity politics who are actually racists. Don't judge a man by the content of his character, but by the..
Why not give the SMP politics thread a try? It's got no PC rules and it's full of people who think like you do.
03-22-2017 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kypreanus
Thanks for your reply.

So as per defnition, political parties can decide themselves what is politically incorrect, and thus not worthy of discussion, like e.g. immigration before Trump brought it up?
Political parties do not decide what is PC. It's about which groups are harmed by prejudice and discrimination.

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The whole term PC is bad for discussion. It should be replaced with something like "be civil, act decent".
To a large extent it is. It is decent to be more careful when discussing the more vulnerable groups in society. The label doesn't matter much but PC is better than anything else imo.
03-22-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Who's the baby for still crying about some brainless sexist posts deleted days ago?

A mod was doing his job in keeping a thread on topic and clear of non-PC drivel.
I'm not crying, I'm just calling him a dickhead.
03-22-2017 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Political parties do not decide what is PC. It's about which groups are harmed by prejudice and discrimination.
All groups are harmed by prejudice and discrimination. How could one argue otherwise?

Who / what is the moral author what is PC?
03-22-2017 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Why not give the SMP politics thread a try? It's got no PC rules and it's full of people who think like you do.
What's SMP?

Wouldn't the PC police ban for this kind of insult?
03-22-2017 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kypreanus
What's SMP?

Wouldn't the PC police ban for this kind of insult?
It's the Science Math & Philosophy subforum, with no PC police! You and Toothsoother would really hit it off imo.
03-22-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kypreanus
What's the difference between Politics and Politics 7.0?

Who misses politics unchained? I didn't post here back then, but atleast the rules didn't favor one party.

In "Politics" forum anyone who opposes the PC and childish resistance movement gets attacked by the thought police mob. Wild unsubstantiated claims and libel about Trump & his associates go unpunished, but any bad word about the democrats can result in a ban.




Good question. It's the people who believe in identity politics who are actually racists. Don't judge a man by the content of his character, but by the..
I agree 100%.

We need to go back to politics unchained. This current format absolutely favors the SJW's. We are all adults. If you can't handle the conversation then go somewere else. We should be allowed to respond to the libel and untruths without feeling we are walking on eggshells. Sometimes the truth hurts. This political correctness thing is ridiculous and dangerous in my opinion. I say this with respect to Chez who seems to be a great guy. It's impossible to have a conversation if the truth is considered Not PC and therefore not allowed. The President Trump thread has been reduced to an anti Trump spam contest between Goofybragger and Siskel and Einbert. I don't think they realize everybody else is gone.

You are correct that this forum is not much different than the poltics subforum. I would think that this site would want to bring in traffic rather than chase it away.
03-22-2017 , 11:47 AM
The people you call SJW's are saying the new format favours the extreme right like you, so maybe it's working quite well?
03-22-2017 , 12:40 PM
Let it die. **** it.

Einbert and goofyballer can spam each other until the forum closes. Good riddance.
03-22-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kypreanus
All groups are harmed by prejudice and discrimination. How could one argue otherwise?

Who / what is the moral author what is PC?
I don't think men as a group are harmed by prejudice and discrimination.

Most of it is not controversial. When it's marginal, we will listen to everyone's views but in the end whosnext and I decide what is or isn't PC.
03-23-2017 , 04:46 AM
Some changes regarding the implementation of the PC rule:

Politically incorrect insults
These are to be avoided. In particular that means no more calling people 'bitches' or '******s'.

Breitbart
Links to Breitbart were banned primarily because the site is not a credible source of news and the site is so at odds with the PC approach of this forum. Give the fact the site is mainstream these days, and the objections raised from posters across the political spectrum, we are going to try out the following compromise. If it causes too many problems then we will reevaluate.

For now, links from Breitbart will be allowed provided:

1) The post containing the link includes a substantive quote of the linked article and forms part of some relevant argument being put forward by the poster.

2) Anything hateful or nonPC is expressly banned - the poster is responsible for both the quote and the content of the links. Posters who flout this rule will be subject to an immediate timeout from the forum.

3) Breitbart links will not be counted as a credible source.
03-23-2017 , 05:27 AM
The new PC insult guidelines are ******ed. You have become a tyrannical PC monster that needs to be overthrown. I am surprised that people have gone along with this nonsense for this long. I also don't care much for that whonuts fellow.

      
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