https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-...b_2402644.html

lol

What type of person wishes for another poster to be sanctioned?

Hmm!! An insecure person perhaps?

Can you make your point please.

He's a mod that's literally his job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Sharia_Council

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim...ation_Tribunal

dumb****

It's his job to want somebody to be sanctioned? He's a MOD? Really? Were? Is there a beginners forum somewhere? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

They sure suffer actual physical harm in many non-western countries though. In many Islamic countries they are imprisoned, tortured, killed. Yet nobody is allowed to criticize Islam for that.

What bloody stupid hypocrisy. You can freely criticize one religion but not another. This PC mind disease that has infected the West is 10 times worse than the so-called "disease" of Christianity.

Are we allowed to blame all Christians for the treatment of Muslims in Western countries?

lol I thought you were "spiritually" American

I dont know why you are swearing at me or what I said that was wrong?

Are you ok? You seem very emotional?

Muslims are treated pretty well in the West generally, by comparison.

I'm just asking if, to the extent that they aren't treated well, that's something we can blame on all Christians.

You are a lying liar. There is no Sharia law in the UK. Muslims can agree to binding arbitration for some things that are based on Sharia law. Not the same thing at all and you know it.

No, but it's a good question, and one worth discussing. If you think some asswhole Aryan criminal or terrorist is Christian, let's discuss that. How representative of "Christian" society is he? And we will also discuss how representative some judge punishing someone for being Christian is of the Muslim society in which that judge rules. We won't blame all the Muslims, but we will discuss it.

Obv this could be in another thread, but w/e.

Unfortunately with all the PC police bull**** in this forum, a balanced discussion on the subject won't be allowed. So it is therefore pointless even trying to engage in one.

I'm fairly sure I could offer criticisms of Islam as a religion (although that would be better suited to RGT), criticisms of specific state policies in various majority-Muslim countries, or even reflections on problems relating to immigration/refugees from majority-Muslim countries in Europe without running into any problems with the moderation.

I also think I know why I could do so and you and others say they cannot. From what I have seen in the past, it is rarely the case that the people complaining about the moderation on this subject are actually looking for "balanced discussion" or really any discussion at all. Instead, they (you) mostly appear to be looking to post content-less and sweepingly over-generalized negative opinions of Islam, Muslims, or immigration and refugees.

My conclusion is that for those who have a complaint with moderation on this subject, the best solution would be for them to try harder to make their posting more substantive, which would almost certainly go a long way towards making it less prejudicial.

Or they could try posting in SMP, where shallow, hateful Islamophobic posts are welcomed and celebrated.

I like to think one day we could get to a point of discussion about the issues of forming a fully integrated society, but when one side literally can't understand the difference between law courts and arbitration we're not going to get into nuance.

Assuming that was a mistake that he was making, please don't attribute one person's mistakes to an entire "side."

Well, if that's not the mistake he's making then he's talking total gibberish. Not sure what's worse.

Really?

I posted a factual statement that Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world and backed it up with citations when asked. How more substantive do you want?

What negative opinions of Islam have I posted, apart from stating that it is not allowed to be criticized in this forum? Provide quotes to back up your claim please.

Maybe you should get your facts right before making sweeping generalizations about my posting, ****wit.

It's pretty low to use the real and deplorable suffering of persecuted Christians as a defense of saying nasty things about Muslims. All religious persecution is detestable and the deaths of peaceful practitioners are not the equivalent of some football score.

You can criticise governments, individuals etc. Erdogan for example is getting lots of criticism. You can also criticise the people who actually voted for him - just make an effort to avoid being offensive and in particular avoid lumping in the ~1.6B who didn't.

Yes there's a bias in that you will get away with a lot more if it's christians but it's still poor posting. It's not hypocrisy - agree or not it's a concern for the real harm done by prejudice and discrimination (in and from the West) and as that's not equal for all groups so the rules are not the same for all groups.

It shouldn't prevent any balanced or reasonable discussion.

I'm still trying to figure out were Goofyballer MODs.

No but do report or bring up any posts that you consider offensive to them as a particular group and I'll consider them.