Bwah. Your "facts" are about as good as Fox News "facts". You know you've fully beclowned your own philosophy when Fox News has a better grasp on what facts are. Do you guys want to give up epistemology to the right as well as the immigration debate? Is that really the foxhole you want your philosophy/political goals to die in?

Are you so unable to see outside your ideological bubble that you can't recognize that Fly's post was purely an opinion, coming from a very narrow ideological position? And contained multiple personal attacks clearly against forum rules? Even the most hardened ideologue usually has a sliver of a clue that the way they see the world might not be correct and might not be the whole story.

Being called a racist isn't pleasant for normal people, and ironically, useless against actual racists, while driving away non-racists like chezlaw. Wookie needs to go if this is the kind of toxic tripe he's letting pass while banning others just because they disagree with him. Or the rules need to be changed to allow personal attacks. This is ridiculous.

For someone whose entire posting output is gleeful disingenuous trolling, including repeatedly trolling a mod, you might want to ease off the complaints about rule enforcement.

LOL once again at the He-Men Real American Tough guys tattling over and over again. ****ing children.

You're thinking of trolly perhaps.

I don't even want to see you banned.

lol, you guys were given a Wookie-free subforum with no rules and all you ever post about is how much you hate Wookie and his rules. You guys just have to wallow in your own misery, it's fundamental to your being.

tooth, i'm not so dumb that i'd take the opinion of a blatant bigot about who the REAL racists are

I see that you are, which isn't surprising

If you mean me then I didn't and want a forum with no rules. As I've said so often even you might have noticed, my preference is a forum with strongly PC biased rules that welcomes all 2+2ers equally and aims to keep threads on the political content.

PU is a bad idea imo though a few LC threads to enjoy throwing poo at each other is good fun.

Feel free to ignore this and everything else that doesn't fit your biases. I assume no new year resolution is in the offing.

A decent number of the people you scream racist at (who aren't racist) come over to the other side. I'm literally telling you how not to lose people who are on your side, and you're doubling down with your hot-headed bigotry.

You can't fix rabid, I guess. It's a fever that has to burn out or be beaten out by reality.
If chezlaw is racist then the word has no meaning.

Nah. Being called racist shouldn't mean much if you are not. Rather have the flys of the world who are sometimes wrong then those who sit back and do nada.

Chezlaw

You seem like a nice individual even when disagreeing with you on a few arguments in the past.

How did you create such rabid haters? The level of vitriol aimed at Chezlaw and gleefully allowed is quite sad....

People itt need to get over it already! Wookie was appointed mod fairly and squarely. Get on the Wookie train! Your anger and sadness is not good for you or your forum.

Mods are fair game like anyone else, when it comes to debate or even trolling them. They're not allowed to act while involved. This is understood and followed in every forum except the one modded by a person with a personality disorder...
Look, either have a polite forum, or don't. I would love to see a polite politics in which the hate-spew and name calling you directed at people like chezlaw isn't allowed. You belong in PU, not regular politics.

Chez defended Bruce Z for ages. Bruce Z was definitely a racist, and also a huge *******. But not as large of a racist and ******* as Toothsayer.

There's a group who think personal attacks and driving people off is good politics. That considering all sides of the argument fairly is a bad thing. We disagree profoundly and they really really don't like being disagreed with by a left wing liberal.

Plus a few kids who can't get over the Bruce fiasco.

Wookie's time limits are long over. At this stage he's at the Putin level of "can't leave his dictatorship". Fresh blood is needed.
Bruce Z is a very smart guy, and helpful and nice, not to mention a long time forum regular and a huge contributor to 2p2. I didn't see any of his politics posts - maybe he was a real life KKK member - but if he wasn't, was there really no way to converse with him other than screaming "racist!!!" like an idiot?
Actually never mind. When a bigot qualifies something with "definitely", it's a good bet it's not true.

lol, Bruce was far more obnoxious and insulting than fly AINEC.

Racist adores fellow racist!

Maybe you should shut the hell up about him then?

That's very unkind. Fly is doing his best.

But can't hope to rise to the level of Bruce's insults and poor behavior?

Sure but there only needs to be one rule.

I MrWookie am the law in the politics forum. Tough if you can't deal with it. You'll find out soon enough if you ****ed up.

Looks like you found your safe space in PU!

How confused does someone have to be to think PU is a safe space?

In P, they are pretty confused by the fact that HRC won the popular vote. einbert, for example, feels that voters were disenfranchised, 2.5M of them. You can try to dispel the confusion, by re-iterating how the republican democracy actual 'works', but to no avail. Also, if Stein would've bought 7M lottery tickets, she would've done more with her recount, but math is tough.

Looks like you are still babbling incoherently and embassing yourself.