its just the degredation of politics by identity thats the problem. its totally fine to say hes a boring guy, dont like. its also fine to say boring white nazi racist, because those words have lost all their weight at this point, and no one cares anymore.

i legitimately dont think saying hes a boring white guy is offensive in any way, i just think its terrible for discourse and is a form of hypocrisy.

and the dude is anything but boring fwiw....

Identify politics is a huge detriment to the left im glad people like Sanders have distanced themselves from it.

Yea Peterson is great could listen to him all day.

Have you ever wondered why racism is only measured by whites? For example - they never measure if blacks are racist towards whites, only whites being racist towards blacks. They never measure Asians or Hispanics being racist against other groups either.

I wonder why?

Hint : you REALLY wouldn't like the results that you'd get.

lozl look at this spengler cucking out

glibberty flibberty floo

or maybe he was trolling you for Dat Top Kek

Awesome contribution to the discussion as always 5ive.

Identity politics was an inevitable reaction to right wing policies that discriminated against minorities, women, gays and etc. Those policies aren't gone yet.

I'm the hero you deserve.

I mean for all the triumphant hi fiving about how Daddy is President y'all still seem really shook by how the educated media class laughs at you as backwards. And it appears your gameplan for dealing with that is retreating into a bubble of Youtubez that tell you what you want to hear, a "safe space", as it were.

I actually somewhat agree. I think the militant identity politics being applied by some on the left and being apologized by others is a result of the inequality sexism and racism that groups of people have suffered in the past. Specifically the last couple of centuries. But two wrongs dont make a right and I hold liberal students to much higher standards than I would a creationist republican for example.

That doesnt make it right though and I think that the alt right and rise in white nationalism is linked to the increase in identity politics being used by the left. Both groups the militant authoritarian SJWs and the alt right are both a detriment to society and will worsen race relations. The next 10 - 15 years is going to be pretty interesting but not in a good way imo.

What polices are you referring to? I think I will disagree with some and agree with others. I do think that the issues facing the black community today are from a direct result of the Americas very racist past.

I think the voting ID laws should be loosened but dont see it as a race issue but im in the UK so im not that familiar with them.

The educated media class who got it the entire election, from beginning to end, completely and totally wrong? That educated media class?

I know how you like to tout how liberals are all smart and ****, but when the main politics forum got their asses handed to them betting hundreds of thousands of dollars on Clinton, was that bad luck? Some people never came back to 2+2 after the result, and others lost so much money it was pretty sad. People were betting on Clinton maxing out their credit cards.

So, those "educated" people are who you trust? Lol.

This entire YouTube argument is hilarious. YouTube is a place that stores media. If you want to argue about YouTubers themselves who CREATE media, that's one thing, but if you are arguing against anything from YouTube, it's just stupid.

And, Safe Spaces are something your people created, because you can't handle how the actual world works. Remember like 8 years ago when people would laugh at the conservatives and their right-wing Fox News bubble? You guys responded by doing the same exact thing, in reverse. It's hilarious how you can't see outside your box. You trust the media (that lies to you) and stay in your safe spaces, petting your therapy dogs and eating brownies. Those are the the actions of a child, not an adult.

Like I said, Daddy is President but the resentment is still there. What's going to make that go away?

IMO and this is just me if I had to pick which one hurts my credibility more, VOTING for the wrong candidate seems like a slightly blacker mark than trusting polls that ****ed up their Wisconsin turnout models, but you know, you do you, wil. Seems like you're real happy about how it all turned out, that your internet presence is still whining about the end of Western civilization and endless ****ing whining about people being mean to you is just an outlier, I'm sure.

Oh I am happy. I'm actually ecstatic. I couldn't be happier that the total idiocy of the left is exposed. When I say things like "what I'm seeing from the left is absolutely horrifying", do you think I'm lying, or exaggerating?

Now, I know you're a leftist, but you aren't stupid. When you see the craziness from the left, you know, the violence, the racism, the crying, the victimhood culture, the safe spaces, the therapy dogs, the endless demands for everything, do you not stop and think, just for a second, that maybe something's "not right"?

I would question every single thing from the left. Everything. It took me a long time to see it but I'm glad I did. The left tells a story, and if they can make you believe that story, they got their hooks in you. You should look the facts up for yourself and be honest about what you're looking at.

Wtf are you even talking about lol.

Lol you've lost your mind, just rambling about Trump and an educated media class. You realize this is a thread about a podcast with a Dr and former Harvard professor right? Also find it funny that in 3 pages the best argument anyone could come up with was meh boring white male.

I think his point was, dr Peterson was not in a 3 hour long form interview on CNN, so it doesn't count....or something? And youtoobz are a safe space because.....???? Honestly man, great post fly, keep fighting the good fight kind sir.

I think you're honestly terrified. Which, tbh, you should be. This **** ain't gonna get any better for you. Look at who is on your side in this thread. People who can't even ****ing figure out which letters get capitalized in a sentence.

This is gibberish. wil you need to understand, there's not something wrong with "the left"(what the **** are you even talking about? Therapy dogs?), there's something wrong with you.

Right, because trump surprisingly won California and Illinois and then HRC won Texas but then Jill Stein came out of nowhere to sweep every other state and wafflecrush a 400+ electoral victory.

p.s. wil has me on ignore for precisely **** like this, but aside from adanthar, the person who lost the most betting HRC straight was domer, a super duper right-wing conservative and apparently a buddy of wil.

It's all just so fundamentally dumb I'm running out of words.

It only seems militant if you're opposed to the underlying themes and messages.

How's that for a contribution?

"Black people are clearly not people, but they're more than 3/5 a white man. I'd give them a solid 7/8 or maybe 8/9."

"Militant identity politics!"

We have different senses of reality. Enjoy yours.

first post since starting the thread. played out exactly as expected. profound stuff lol

can someone figure out how many of the last 100 posts from 5ive have been directed at wil? originally i thought the line should be at about 50 but now im thinking its higher. super weird

did anyone else notice victor call me a liar and FOS when i claimed there was psychology research on political beliefs? then i provided him with online surveys. then deuces came in to blast me about not realizing its being done on both sides of the political spectrum. then i reminded deuces that he actually snipped me explaining this out of my quote before blasting me. and now the grand finale is victor is pitching me studies he called me a liar for saying existed while failing to acknowledge his spazz out was embarrassingly stupid. yes victor, the research exists and it produces unflattering results for extremes on both ends of the spectrum.... which i already posted and you responded by calling me a liar lol

so we have professors in the field of psychology jordan peterson, gad saad, and jonathan haidt all applying their expertise to describe a massive wave of lunacy on the left in great detail and then we have flywf stop by to remind us that he prefers to listen to openly biased news entertainers or "educated medi class" (lol) and like-minded SJW's. powerful stuff

I got that dude on ignore, too. Lol.

If I was a woman I could get a restraining order with this documented. Or speak at the UN.

The world is a crazy place, and people can't even see it. Lol let the comet come now. Jesus, if you are out there, just come down and end humanity now, things didn't work out dog, we screwed it up.