I'm not blaming anybody. In fact, I've repeatedly tried to redirect blame talk as I'm 100% not interested in who's to blame.

I do not believe my behavior meets criteria for sexual harassment but do know Gizmo has reported (repeatedly) feeling harassed. Accepting her statements regarding her feeling harassed at face value, I'm trying to understand why forum point scoring would be worth exposing yourself to feeling sexually harassed.

To me, it's a case of either the harassment feelings being overblown, or the point scoring feeling much better than I thought. I suspect the former.

If being "weird" were what she risked exposing herself to, then I'd basically be in agreement.

But Giz feels my behavior is far worse than weird. It's sexual harassment. When you sub in "sexual harassment" for "acting weird" above your theory doesn't really fit, unless of course point scoring (and the subsequent social benefits) outweigh the cost of being sexually harassed; something I already listed as a potential option, but felt was only possible if she didn't feel sexually harassed.

Unless you disagree? Do you think point scoring and the associated social benefits outweigh the costs of being sexually harassed as opposed to merely "acting weird?"

If you were taking her feeling harassed at face value you wouldn't be speculating that the harassment isn't really that bad.

bitterman clinging desperately to the idea that someone, somewhere, cares even the slightest bit about him - even if it's them hating him, is a very sad thing to witness.

Taking it at face value leads to the confusion discussed at length ITT.

Something has to give. Either the benefits of point scoring (attention, social praise, w/e) outweigh the costs of being sexually harassed, or the costs were overblown.

A combination is likely. I can't imagine a situation where feeling sexually harassed is compensated by online social gains with strangers; like, even the most desperately isolated and depressed individual wouldn't sign up for a situation where some positive attention from forumites compensated for the emotional fallout of sexual harassment. I'm thinking her sense of belonging here is likely more influential than I might imagine, hence the social advantages of point scoring are greater for her. That said, I still don't see how it would make up for the costs associated with feeling sexually harassed.

You should dedicate a thread to both 1) how much I suck and you wish I would leave, and 2) how my negative attention seeking should be rewarded by your thread because, you know, I may one day seek a stake ITF.

Winning decisions.

Being really difficult to like seems to be a common problem among those who make massive strategic mistakes in iterative social interactions.

You are weighting the utils and the probabilities wrong.

You are, in effect, kicking a ******ed cat at this point.

it never bothered me when the target was smp ******s, so why would this be any different?

Maybe inducing you to go over the line and get yourself banned means more sexual harassment in the short term but less sexual harassment in the long run.

Maybe any perceived abuse from you has a diminished effect and doesn't bother her as much as it used to.

Maybe she thinks that the principled thing is to not waver in the face of threats of sexual harassment and to do the opposite of appeasement.

See folks, this lack of creativity on the part of DIB is why I tend to believe he doesn't make up his stories.

Sorry. I thought you were the bottom. Kind of difficult to keep track of from the outside.

She risked exposing herself to harassment that she's previously experienced because this time it might get me banned?

Nah.
I think we can agree it likely doesn't bother her much.
So she opts to score forum points against strangers on principle, despite the likely outcome being sexual harassment?

Nah.

Unless the harassment might be better described as me being "weird," or "annoying," or any of the other descriptors others have used.

wat

Stories that are neither believable or entertaining are exactly what you should expect from somebody without any creativity telling lies.

Still justifying his harassment because she's obviously not really concerned by it and just faking. I mean, at this point she's just begging for it, amirite?

Notice, if you will, how I'm NOT "harassing" her any longer, have apologized for my actions, and how I've stated I have no intentions to "harass" despite threatening to do so and her opting to DOXX talk anyway.

But don't let reality get in the way of your little narrative.

Oh, I'm sorry, I should have been clear you're not currently doing it, just threatening to

Did I miss this or just forget about it?

Pretty sure forgot, but would have no qualms apologizing again.

Uncool of me to persistently touch on something I knew she/you were very uncomfortable with just to get a rise out of you two. Ditto commenting on Dids being ugly. Think there's a line of acceptability re: posting demeanor even in PUC and that I had crossed it repeatedly in these regards. Truly regret it and am sorry about doing so.

In light of spank getting remodded, this place is getting too touchy feely.

Someone throw a pie!

I for sure agree with this and i'm glad that your recognize it.

Yeah, he's so gosh darn sorry that he's spent the past two days threatening to do it again.

Oh no, but he's not actually going to do it. It's just super interesting that I would risk sexual harassment to point out that he lied about doxxing. The sexual harassment must not be intense enough (or real sexual harassment) otherwise I would have backed down from being threatened.

about damn time

So let's say it's real Giz. What's your motive? The scoring of points and high fives is juicy enough to commpensate for the sexual harassment?