Yes, I agree, it continues. Snappy comeback by the way.

lul

shhhh nobody tell him that the jokes on him

Are you saying that Republicans weren't trying to strip PP of funding because of abortion?

So it's just about hating women then? If you say so.

As an aside: why should taxpayers fund abortion when a substantial portion of them think it's equivalent to murdering a just-out-of-the-womb child (which it is, morally, for late term abortions which the mother could easily carry to term)?

If women want to kill their children, let them pay for it. The idea that you can just kill another human life - one that already has feelings and sensations - with zero cost or consequence is pretty bizarre. Making people who find it abhorrent pay for it is pretty bad.

No, the joke is actually on you....the funny thing is that you don't get it...

While I somewhat agree with you here, do you feel the same way about the death penalty? Public funds finance it, no?

I have trouble separating these things out. Say if I wouldn't want my tax money to go to making nuclear weapons, but I don't know how to take a position on it.

I feel like you never out-grew the game of shadow as evidenced by your inability to do anything but try and use my own commentary on me.

-1 for effort my racist child. -1.

This is a bit off topic...but is the death penalty a Dem or Republican thing?

I voted to repeal it here in California but it seems like it never had a chance to get repealed. And then you have Texas, a red state, with the most executions and I think was the first state to pass the law. Is it just a non-partisan thing?

It's a Republican thing, in general. There are some democrats who are against. I'm against it in principal, but I am not comfortable telling others what they should do. It's probably the most complicated issue there is.

Typical libtard response, you can't have an intelligent conversation so you call me a racist. You forgot to add homophobe and sexist in there too. I actually kinda feel bad and sorry for you.

LOL

Too easy man. Ignorance really is bliss.

Logically, it should be one of the least complicated issues.

Put aside for the moment that innocent people have most likely been put to death (a strong argument against in and of itself); the reasoning behind 'X is so wrong, if you do it, we'll do X to you' is dubious at best.

It's not uncomplicated at all. I have no problem with the government finding that someone has done something so awful that they only recourse is to take their life. However, even a cursory examination of the realities of death sentence cases makes it clear that we use it to kill poor minority people, until that changes I can't really support it.

I remember having to write an essay in 3rd grade on the Death penalty. We had to pick a side and argue for or against. This was during the 88 election when it was a huge issue.

Can you imagine having 8 year olds tackle this subject in school now? My, how times have changed.

How do Brits know this but you, an American, don't?

What's complicated about it? (Naive Canadian questions, I know. Humour me.)

I assume you mean changed for the worse. Do you think life was better in 1988? (I was born in 84 so I don't remember anything beyond sesame street from the 80's.)

I knew it's been predominantly a conservative stance in years past. But nowadays it seems to me both sides are for it. It never really came up during this election cycle. And I would guess it boils down to $ that both sides benefit from it.

What makes it complicated is because it's hard to be philosophically consistent either side you choose. I don't believe that the government should be able to tell you what to do, in general. I also don't believe an embryo is a human being. I can't define on what day that embryo does become a human being. Therefore I can't define when an abortion is actually murder.

Also, lives are lost every day to other causes. If preventing death is our #1 goal, then we can change many many things to help achieve that. For example, we knew for a fact that lowering the speed limit will save lives. That isn't up for debate. The question is how many deaths are acceptable to us because we want to drive over 55 miles an hour?

If you believe life starts at conception and don't support the death penalty, then maybe I can understand you saying it's an easy choice. I'm not in that boat, so for me it's a gut-wrenching debate and one I do not really wish to explore. It makes me sad and angry and every other emotion, I just try to avoid it.

The access to information provides for a much better opportunity at educating oneself now. As far as the socio-political climate in the education system being much better, I really don't know. Probably better and worse in certain areas. I don't have any kids so I can't speak from personal experience.

I'm at a similar viewpoint on the Death Penalty. I'm against it for the sole reason that there is just too many innocent lives railroaded by corruption in the system. I also happen to believe Life without Parole is a harsher punishment than Death anyway.

But I also see circumstances that having the threat of the Death Penalty in place can be a good thing for leverage. For example, the family of victims that would rather have a speedy process and move on, they can agree to accept a plea of Life Without Parole instead of having to go through a tough trial for the Death Penalty. On the flip side though, that leverage can be a danger to actual innocent people that plea down to Life, just to avoid getting the Death Penalty. It is pretty damn complex. Jeez.

There are many areas where we have to somewhat arbitrarily draw a line eg the age of consent. It's illogical that having sex with someone aged 15 years 364 days is rape but on their 16th birthday it's consensual sex (UK example), but there is no sensible alternative.

Yes but we can agree one is more final than the other. That one day is the difference between life and death.

Sliding scale punishment by age is not better in theory? Why is this not implemented?

Are you in the "special" class? Serious question, I'm just curious...