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well it's no surprise this awesome shabbodiddle person has already been corrupted by power and doesn't want to give any up

You have much to learn young shabbadawan

If you edit my post during the post editing window I could just edit it back

he was already offered the opportunity to stay on and mod other places after this place was closed

I'd consider it, especially if I could software mod my own threads for content.

This is so weird. I don't read or post in most threads, but I've still seen lots of horrible, bigoted, terrible stuff and I'm fine with it. it's good to know these idiotic opinions exist, what their rationale is (if any), and the haters usually end up outing themselves as stupid anyway. I've learned tons about how haters view the world and where their info comes from and it even forces me to address some inconsistencies in my own values and thinking. I think it's a good thing overall.

As far as the poo flinging, yeah that's annoying but I don't know it's kind of fun to dig up old dirt on someone and beat them over the head with it. And sometimes you get beaten. Whatever, dudes.

What? This is an outrage!

I offer my support and best wishes.

What about a system that required you to post in a designated thread the post # you wanted deleted from a thread you started?

Damn You!

Sounds worth trying. People who stifle responses unfairly in their threads would probably get a reputation and it sounds open for all to use, as well as, see.

Just make PU subject to downvotes lol

I suspect that any community consensus based approach will eventually end up even more chained than Alta Politards. I'm also pretty sure that the meta-discussion will quickly drown out all other topics.

People have been brainstorming this whole internet forum thing for almost 30 years. Forgive me for being skeptical, but as smart as most of you are, I doubt any of you are going to come up with any groundbreaking new solutions to problems that have been around since Reagan was in office.

I'd actually challenge the premise there (and not necessarily the results).

There's tons of room for improvements in online communication/forums. And the range of possible solutions that we have at our disposal now is significantly greater than what was available even when 2+2 started.

The idea that all the great ideas of the internet have been thought of is a pretty bad one.

...by this rationale, why discuss politics in the first place since people have been thinking about it for millennia and we're just going back to end up right back in this world anyway.

“All I wanted was humor and wisdom.” And therefore I happen to like most of JJ's posts.

This is classist?

The quality of a good does not decrease, if the cost of producing it decreases per se. The variety of goods becomes bigger in this particular case.

A Giffen good is a product that people consume more of as the price rises because the income effect dominates over the substitution effect. But it has to do with prices. So if there is no price signal, mostly no Giffen good. And it is mainstream opinion that all Giffen goods are inferior goods not high quality goods (if they even exist). My guess is you think of a veblen good but you need at least some kind of price signal for those too.

The Giffen good would probably be bad quality discussion not good quality discussion. If you have amount X of intellectual income and bad discussion gets more expensive, you might have to have more bad discussion because the price raise puts such a drain on your budget that you can't afford good (still more expensive) discussion anymore, if you have to make sure you get the "right" amount of discussion to survive. So this is mostly true for people with little intellectual income. It could depend on your def of intellectual income though, and on the properties of bad and good discussion.

This doesn't make any sense. If you want to say more quality posts lead to more intellectual income leads to more supply and demand for quality posts, then you are probably talking about a normal good, but I am not sure, what you are talking about.

You are not addressing JJ's concerns to actually create something like a price signal. I would love to see a trial.

I'm not saying all the ideas have been thought, I'm saying I think it very unlikely that the people in this forum are going to come up with anything significantly better. And I say that as somebody who generally has a lot of respect for the intelligence of most who post here. It's just that 20+ years of interwebbing have made me very skeptical that anything useful will ever come from these discussions.

I also don't think the range of solutions has increased in any meaningful way. Karma systems, up/down voting, user moderation, etc. have all been around since at least the late 90's, yet all the well known problems of online communities remain completely unchanged. This isn't a technology problem, it is a human problem. You can't solve human behavior at this scale with game theory.

Each community is a snowflake.

I actually just had an idea today while reading the forums. Some kind of reparations effort that would involve a part-time white slavery program. Something like the National Guard where you required to spend one weekend a month and two months during the summer at the behest of some black family. Nothing permanent, maybe just run it for 50 years or so to help even things out. Whaddayathink?

Will it make Team Bruce stop talking about Bruce?

Well, for at least one weekend each month, I guess.

Will it make you keep talking about Bruce while complaining about people talking about Bruce?

Will it make you keep talking about Bruce while complaining about people who don't want talk about Bruce while complaining about people talking about Bruce?

Edit: Let me antedate fly's post: Will it make me shut up?

Will the market determine the definition of "personal attack"?

You forgot to randomly use ALL CAPS randomly, and spread it out over 2 or 3 back-to-back posts to maximize the odds that you'd question his sanity.