I think those words matter alot. I cant imagine a head of state saying something like this in the past to the public.

Trump is sabotaging a decades old relationship to the EU and hopeing to compensate that with his new russian allies or some other semidictators.

While it might be a good idea to give up the cold war mentality, i think Trump embodies the mounting incompatibility between democracy and some narcistic capitalist elite.

Trump is celebrating Memorial Day by destroying the alliances that so many people gave their lives for. Great work.


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Trump is restoring USA #1's standing in the world!

he propably is barely realizing this, this is the most terrifying part i think.

yeah, that was what the german thought Hitler would do for them. i think he will isolate the united states and end its power. not sure though if china will be the #1 after the dust has settled. what trump is doing is basically going on tilt with the US-bankroll. odds are that this wont go so well.

Or the UK

Sad but true.

Anyone else worried about Germany taking the fate of Europe into their hands? It worked so well the last time. No wonder the Brits wanted out.

thats a fair point, in fact germany has to stop exploiting the economys of their neighbours for the EU to work in the future, or the other countries will leave the EU.

I wonder which will be the new ally of the EU. Maybe China?

Nein. They're going to be just as dysfunctional as they ever were.

I'm not a Euro citizen, so this may sound naive, but why do you all want the US running things anyway? Why not take it upon yourselves to build the world the way you want it, rather than relying on a country where the president changes course every 4-8 years?

merkel's a pariah whos insanely power hungry

I would be concerned if merkel suddenly became Trumps best friend

You got the wrong picture, not the US is running all these things, the US and the EU were together the western world. With the end of world war 2 the US and europe had a very strong and reliable partnership, which was basically independent of the current POTUS. What Merkel is basically saying, is that if Trump is going on like this the EU and the US wont be partners anymore, so the marriage will break up after 70 years.

The EU might seek a new alliance with asia, while the US will have some junior partners all other the world.

its not trump that wants to destabilize the relationship, its merkel who wants more power within Europe that wants to do this. The woman is power hungry to the max.

also lol that asia would side with the eu here

of course germany (and therfor the EU) is powerhungry as well, no doubt.

Asia has the recources, the EU has the knowledge. I could imagine some sort of partnership.

I understand the picture. My question is why do the euros care?

1) will be bad for the NATO and other international organisations
2) will be bad for democracy, as asia allies will have less respect for democracy than the US
3) will be bad for global stability, as there wont be one superpower anymore

that are the reasons i can think off. other than that i think it is also alot of insecurity about the future as a whole.

Ok, fair enough. But why will it be bad for NATO and democracy?

NATO: Why does having NATO around matter to Euros? As i said previously, i'm naive about Euro perceptions of this, but it seems that they don't want to participate much anyway. Is it a fear of Russia? Do Euros want the USA to continue being their Big Brother and protecting them? Is it because they like being able to spend almost nothing on their own militaries because the US will bear the costs?

Democracy: How does having alliances with Asian countries hurt Euro democracy? Do you think that they will influence your countries that much?

the NATO is defintily designed to protect against russia. the whole ucraine thing was putin vs the NATO and the EU basically. So giving up on the NATO will make russia stronger.

Another point is that international organistations like the NATO act as something in common, there is a guarantee no NATO state will attack each other, so it is guaranteed peace.
Giving up that might be dangerous and could lead to armed conflicts which wouldnt be possible befor,.

I dont think anybody could attack the EU directly. However without the US the EU wont be able to engage in any conflict outside of the EU. Dont know if that is a bad thing.

If the EU seeks alliances with asia the result will be that we have to find common values in the long run.

And common values with authoritarian states mean that the democracy standards of the EU will be dropped. For me that is the biggest danger i see.

Ok, thanks for explaining that. It does make the picture clearer for me.