Another LOLtastical thing that libertarian-types do is the whole micro-nations thingee... from the Republic of Minerva to Seamolia. Ofc, just like everything else 'Liberty Movement', these are usually scams too.

What's the latest hilarity, you ask? Well perhaps soon you can buy citizenship in the Commonwealth of Belle Isle. It's a bargain at 300k$USD, but you'll make it all back in 's with those Belle Isle Rands you'll get in exchange.

"Hell Isle", from The Nation
commonwealthofbelleisle.com


Whoa... wait there youz guyz !!!1! If "Gubment Bad" then WTF BBQ... why to you want have anything to do with one, let alone become one. That don't make a lick o'sense...

X-posted from Alta-Politards.

Hey! I'm a libertarian and I don't consider myself ignorant or idealistic. Then again I'm drunk and decided to come to Politics Unchained for the first time in my life. (I'm a poli-sci major, but wanted to stay away from the politics sections on 2+2)

So instead of saying anything meaningful or funny, I'll just say that every other political philosophy, and it's members, are just as crazy and screwed up as us! You just have different ideas that you see as important.

(although I must say one productive thing, which is that I will admit that the libertarian upswing in 2008-2012 was largely based on young people who had no idea what they were talking about, they were just frustrated and saw Paul as unconventional. I call myself a libertarian - notice the small l - because I most closely associate with the philosophy. I don't blindly adhere to it, so yeah.)


NOW COME AT ME!!!!

Re: LOL @ all things libertarian-type !!!1!

Your instincts were correct... alcohol decisions have led you astray. FYI: being a Poli-Sci major won't help you here in Los Dos Politardias.

LOL no.

See the thing is that (a) libertarian-type-ism isn't really a 'philosophy' at all, (b) while perhaps equally screwed up as us normals, libertarian-types are definitely on the krazy-koolaid drank, (c) libertarian-type-ism doesn't have 'different ideas', not at all.

One thing it seems everyone is saying is the 'Liberty Movement' has really fallen flat after L.Ron pulled the plug on his (Over)lution long con. Sometimes things do get better.

Re: LOL @ all things libertarian-type !!!1!

You're both drunk.

Libertarian-type-ism Makes You Stupid, by S.Finkelstein.

x-post from LC

It's hard for this not to sound sarcastic, but I genuinely find that post hilarious.

This is a real good point.

Libertarian-types love to play them some "No True Scotsman".

For every single reprehensible policy associated with libertarian-type-ism, there's a way for any particular libertarian-type to claim that he (LOL, always a he) isn't that "flavor" of libertarian-type. Then he can proceed to play the ZOMG STRAWMAN ZOMG card and #win the interwebs.

In fact, they have taken it to a whole new level... to simply "No Scotsman" !!!1! Because if we strip aside all those reprehensible policies associated with libertarian-type-ism... we find there is nothing there. Absolutely nothing at all... because it isn't really a 'philosophy' at all.

Here's a good case in point, from the de-facto ending post in my old ITT we learn about ACism as a team thread. Asking if we could identify just one, just one, distinguishing characteristic of ACism, literally drew a blank and utterly failed...

And besides the LOLilarity of Boney526 refusing to read an article the explains that the whole concept of a 'voluntary' safety-net is fatally flawed... because he saw a quick chance to falsely play the ZOMG somebody is STRAWMANNING me ZOMG card for the interwebs #win...

What's with this seemingly congenital logical defect with libertarian-types regarding this whole all/none/some thingee we got working in the English language? That's not how people who aren't high on the krazy-koolaid drank act. The canonical example is this classic, but libertarian-types make this same exact logical prat fall... all-day, everyday... about basically everything.

Saying "libertarian-types champion the 'rights' of racists to discriminate" is not the same as saying "all libertarian-types are racists"

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. no
5. maybe
6. yes
7. no
8. no

Not my beliefs, but my position on what libertarians believe. I do, however, understand and see how libertarians can come off that way to most people.

Oh dear, OOT has me making serious posts today. I'm going to have to watch that carefully.

Trolly McTrollson quoting Boney526 over in Alta Politards...

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FMP

TIL the AC movement is dead

What you should learn is... the is no such thing as an "AC Movement". There never has been, and never will be such a thing. As AC isn't an ideology, or even a coherent and non-self-contradictory set of ideas, it would be logically impossible to being into being, or even to imagine.

What died is the ACist hyjack here on 2+2. That crap, and the gang of stone cold idiots and reprobates that used to prate it... all gone and mostly forgotten.

Do you REALLY want to go down that road, as a statist? No True Scotsman is literally your only hope of salvation if so, so I'd be careful painting yourself into a corner.

literally your only hope of salvation

Not really lol.

http://www.avclub.com/article/no-dog...gether--202467

Are statists us or are statists them? Enmity, the most basic political manipulation.

This post really encapsulates a whole lot of why Re: LOL @ all things libertarian-type !!!1!. ZOMG... anytime anyone uses the word 'statist' they might as well announce... "Hey, look at me, I'm an idiot !!!1!" Let me count the ways...

• The word is almost exclusively used by libertarian-types... self identifying as idiots. Re: LOL@ etc.
  
  
• They only use it as an insult, rendering it meaningless... if it wasn't already.
  
  
• What they mean in their koolaid-drank addled minds, is simply "non-libertarian". Which explains why they only use it as an insult.
  
  But, let's see how that definition works inline...
  
  Quote:

  Do you REALLY want to go down that road, as a non-libertarian? No True Scotsman is literally the only hope of salvation for non-libertarians...
  ZOMG LMFAO... everyone, literally everyone in the world but that 1% that are libertarian-types, rely on the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. But amazingly enough, only libertarian-types can see this fact... ZOMG LMFAO. Re: LOL@, etc.
  
  
• Notice how neatly dividing the world into libertiarian-types -vs- 'statists' plays directly into the childish Manichean world view of libertarian-types. Of course, since all libertarian-type dogma is an exercise in applied sophistry, this kinda either/or mal-reasoning is to be expected.
  
  
• Also notice how vhawk01 guesses I'm a 'statist', then proceeds to tell us an alleged flaw in 'statistism'. He says nothing at all about libertarian-type-ism at all, positive or negative.
  
  This is another typical sign that a person is spinning sophistry at you.
  
  I doesn't matter if I'm a 'statist', or a US Republican, or a Neo-Gorean, or even if I'm a dog, or a frog, or dead and nothing. It never matters what someone else "is". No matter what anyone else "is", these things stays exactly the same: Libertarian-type-ism is a buncha crap, etc, etc.
  
  
• Of course, vhawk01 has no idea what True Scotsman even is. Say, if I was defending 'statistism', and vhawk01 claims 'statistism' sucks because of war, then I said war isn't really 'statistism'... that might be (depending on context of course) pulling a True Scotsman.
  
  But nobody is defending 'statistism' ITT (or anywhere else for that matter, as it's a meaningless insult)... we're LOLing @ libertarian-types. So ??
  
  
• Of course, the usual fallback stance for libertarian-types is to say that they're not "that kinda libertarian" (playing the True Scotsman). What "their kinda" libertarian means by 'statist' is those who feel that government is necessary for certain particular things.
  
  Of course, then 99% of libertarian-types are 'statist's too. Only the ACers can claim they aren't... and they don't count, because they basically claim they aren't because 2+3==7.
  
  
• And finally, where does a libertarian-type like vhawk01 go, when he guesses completely wrong about someone else being a "statist"? Because that's what happened ITT. Under any definition, including both above, I ain't no 'statist'.
  
  My experience is that libertarian-types got nowhere to go... they'll usually just insist everyone else but libertarian-types are really closet 'statist's, or their head will x-plode. But we'll see... maybe vhawk01 is one of those special zombies that can reason this out...

Isn't statist short for statistic?

I thought it meant impatient people.