#4 always get's me. How exactly does one legislate or de-legislate personal responsibility? Personal responsibility is a personal philosophy which can only manifest at a personal, individual level and only because of personal awareness and decision. How exactly is it a political issue, at all?

Libertarian Party does not define libertarianism any more than the Democratic Party defines liberalism.

There is some truth in this, however, the word liberal is not contained in the word democrat .

I did hold on to label for a while, calling myself an independent libertarian. In the end I do not like the idea of giving the power of my identity to the term and risk unintentionally promoting egosim, bigotry, pollution, or exploitation by association.

Mostly...

I think the derelict drug addicts should be locked away.

Like the riffraff you see getting arrested on the show Cops.

Please, for the sake of humanity, give up your racist ways and love your fellow man.

COPS is still on TV?

Ugggghhhhhhh....like a broken record.....calling people racist.....so ridiculously lame....

Dude... Cops has all races....I have never watched that show and said wow, there are way more black people featured on this show than white people.

Do you think I watch that show and think to myself...well that derelict white meth head is totally cool and shouldn't be locked up? Give me a break dude...

Now had I said what I said before and said the show "Bait Car" then your racist accusation would make more sense.

Silver_Man, once again, you are the riff raff.

Yeah... I haven't heard this one in a long time, but as a kid I sometimes heard racist adults prate-on about white n-word people. They were basically talking about class, as the white n-word people were invariably "trailer trash" or from the duplexes.

The thing that always amazed me as a child is that the song was always about how white n-word people were much, much, much worse than black folk (who were all n-word people of course) Something, something, something about how black folk are born n-word people so they have 'no choice' while white n-word folk choose to 'live that way'.

Of course, libertarian-types deny racism even exists (or it seems, is even logically possible, ala L.Ron). And today, when I hear "choose to live that way" it's invariably racists hammering Hispanics, not blacks.

Is America's Most Wanted racist too? If so, I was super racist back in the 90s, I would watch that and COPS back to back.

The problem is the word libertarian has been used as front. That's because it has some good ideas.

Personal responsibility is powerful perspective when taken correctly, it has the power to move one's life in the direction they choose. That's because it is always an internal choice and not one coerced by fear, shame, or apathy. It's an unprovable event to any other individual, though one can testify. Considered an expression of self-compassion and is part of the practice of developing compassion for others. A perspective similiar with Buddists. Oh, it is also known to be closely related with forgiveness. Told you it wasn't political.

But used as front, a surface concept of personal responsibility is considered and it is used as an indicitment of others, as well as, personally asserted. Indicting others for personal responsibility political is a mistake and conceptually impossible. And what's missing? That is the depth.

Libertarian thing has also been used as a front all over and with different labels. Hard to tell the difference between a tea party, a libertarian, some conservatives, some republicans, some independents, ACISTS WAT WAT, something else, and so one.

This is why I think over time the libertarian thing has grown so distorted and dilluted. Some of it is a front. Some of it's key concepts are logical and language fallacy and others are incomplete or misapplied concepts used for indictment rather than understanding.

Another thing is the value of making generalizations about libertarians is diminished. It cannot be clearly tied to the party platform because other fronts deviate into different power circles. This made it a good front until it got pinned down by the idea police.

IDK Probably confirmation bias but more freebirds who don't prefer to identify as libertarians, but try to live that way, than people who call themselves libertarian at this point.

Oh, That's another good thing about personal responsibility. Just being aware of the notion can lead a person to develop it in a meaningful sense. Even as a bad front it can still encourage the value, just not too bad a front. No point having personal responsibility on a polluted starving planet.

Ugh too late to edit that post. Sorry for the grammar. I do try to edit before clicking post, but failed this time. And then lost connection. Thanks, rural internet.

Wishing I knew how to insert Utubes directly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Ug7EyXhts

At the end of the day of course it's a personal philosophy but:

a) people can become more personally responsible (it's not a fixed trait)
b) people with high levels of personal responsibility are good for society
c) government could have policy that encourages personal responsibility instead of discouraging it or being indifferent to it.

u6Ug7EyXhts This is the key part of the youtube url. It comes after v= for every youtube.


Insert directly or embed a video like this: (youtube)u6Ug7EyXhts(/youtube)

except you replace both pairs of the ( ) with []

this is the result: You can quote this post to see it.

I #felt personally responsible to clean this post up.

From L.Ron's racist newsletters...

This strikes me as an unbiased approximation, you all agree? 300k people seems way closer to reality than like 10% of the population which kept popping up in google searches...

http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...-political-pa/

Racism in not very personally responsible. Racists are part of the species who split the atom, but think their own skin cells are meaningful beyond a superfical level. Personally irresponsible to debase yourself in such a manner.

While we LOL @ libertarian-types... we should always keep in mind that while it's painfully obvious that libertarian-type-ism has nothing at all to do with what anyone not on that koolaid-drank would ever imagine calling 'liberty'... it's also not a movement at all. It's all astro-turf.

And yes, ofc the Libertarian Party doesn't 'define' libertarian-type-ism... in fact, the sheeple in today's LP don't even get it at all.

Modern libertarian-type-ism doesn't exist to win elections, or to even to be a viable political party. The Koch bros figured this all out after the 1970s. It's all about the "think tanks", it's all about doing the propaganda. It's about staking out an absurdly extreme right-wing stance, so the more 'reasonable' (only by comparison), conservative class-war initiatives can be framed as 'moderate' or a 'compromise'.

Here's a timely example from the New York Times...

From the same article...

THUNKTANKS AMIRITE?

Libertarians are also guilty of co-opting Robert Heinlein's fiction, whatever his personal viewpoint. In context TANSTAFL only applies in the future on the moon.

I mean, duh. Humans are the only creature on Earth and the only one we know of that actually pays for lunch. The vast majority of all lunches which ever existed are exactly free.

Re: LOL @ all things libertarian-type !!!1!

Re: LOL @ all things libertarian-type !!!1!

https://www.galt.io

lol scammaments

Libertarians are really dumb. For real.

Their logo is a pyramid!