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Old 04-20-2017, 02:32 PM   #26
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Mongidig!

Goofy I have even said repeatedly that my views align with Fly's on a number of political topics. (as they do with Einbert's as well).
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Old 04-20-2017, 03:01 PM   #27
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LOL it's so cute to see Dan finally find a group of people he can make friends with
How quickly did that toolbag shut up? Answer the question.
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:13 PM   #28
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How quickly did that toolbag shut up? Answer the question.
The politics of mongidig

Health Care: Expand or eliminate medicare, whatever.

Foreign policy: Bomb Syria or stay out of the ME, whatever.

Fiscal stimulus: Invest a trillion in infrastructure or cut all spending, whatever.

Important stuff: Yeehaw that thar freako got shut the hell up there, TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! wooooohaaaaaa
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:47 PM   #29
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ummm.... i just told you there is no body count. i supplied a reason. there is no american communism just like there is no polar bears in miami. deaths from communism come from places with communism. same with deaths from polar bears

im absolutely amazed that you never seem to get embarrassed and double down on stupidity every time
and after careful reflection.....
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There are American communist. Ive argued with one for over 20 years. They have a party and a long history in the US.

You brought up antifa (who also have a history here) linked them to communism to show the ills and now there are no communists. Ok... Problem solved!!
dealing with this level of stupidity is just exhausting. communism has a body count of over 100 million and proven track record of complete and total failure every single time. communism is an ideology. there has never ****ing been communism in the U S fvcking A you ****ing dingbat. why the **** are you asking me about the communism body count in the usa and then telling me that there are people in the usa that believe in communism? are you actually mentally challenged?

this started with einbert posting favorable things about antifa and i suggested he get out of the bubble if he doesnt realize this is a pack of morons. thats giving him the benefit of the doubt. i then explained that antifa is full of people that actually want communism. somehow it needs to be explained to people that communism has lead to genocide every single time and this failed experiment has played out over and over. i mentioned this assuming people here would realize that believing in communism is actually retarded and that would shed some light on antifa. i then highlighted the obvious in that the antifacist had actually planned to violently shut down free speech. i then pointed out that antifas most famous member was a big bush pornstar. all of this was to highlight the absurdity of antifa. on top of that, i even stated you don't need to take one side or the other politically to dismiss antifa as a steaming pile of garbage. somehow all of this flew over a bunch of people responding to me

not only did people start getting defensive of communism but then people started strawmanning my post claiming i was comparing it all sorts of other political disasters. just when i think this forum couldn't be more full of far left dingbats, we now have people actually rushing in defensively of communism. of course i posted the obvious in that none of these dingbats could come within a galaxy of explaining why communism turns in to genocide every time. obviously

to bring this full circle batair, you constantly follow me around this forum calling me a racist and a bigot. i cant even explain to you the difference between people existing with favorable communism beliefs and the fact that communism has never actually existed in the usa. thats an actual concept you fail to grasp. so next time you have decided im a racist or a bigot and think its ok to fake quote me or fake paraphrase me, pump the brakes. you cant even understand the most basic and obvious explanation repeated to you over and over about the fact a person believing in communism is totally detached to communism actually existing and the body count that non existent communism produced

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Old 04-20-2017, 04:56 PM   #30
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Important stuff: Yeehaw that thar freako got shut the hell up there, TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! wooooohaaaaaa
youre not beginning to think negatively towards antifa considering the following

-full of people that believe in communism
-want to stop fascism by planning to stop free speech via violence
-members engaging in big bush porn
-now you see video of the antifa paper thin arguments being completely stifled by the fact the guy was black. his skin color alone was checkmate for the dummy
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:37 PM   #31
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Mongidig!

Goofy I have even said repeatedly that my views align with Fly's on a number of political topics. (as they do with Einbert's as well).
Yeah, but what we're telling you is that you are lying, and lying so badly that nobody believes you.

Like, even in your responses to being called out for lying, you don't act like someone who is clearly being terribly misunderstood. You just repeat "but derps I EVEN SAID REPEATEDLY" then melt down into personal attacks.

We know you've said that repeatedly, but lying twice isn't any more convincing than lying once. What you might have wanted to do if you wanted to make those lies convincing is not just say "my views align with Fly's", but actually ACT like your views align with me.

Instead, well, you're still trying to own the libs for using fake news to hurt Trump's feelings about the Patriots. You've made more posts about how upset you are about goofy calling that tweet savage(without ANY caveats!) than you've ever made about police brutality lol
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:40 PM   #32
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:03 PM   #33
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Yeah, but what we're telling you is that you are lying, and lying so badly that nobody believes you.

Like, even in your responses to being called out for lying, you don't act like someone who is clearly being terribly misunderstood. You just repeat "but derps I EVEN SAID REPEATEDLY" then melt down into personal attacks.

We know you've said that repeatedly, but lying twice isn't any more convincing than lying once. What you might have wanted to do if you wanted to make those lies convincing is not just say "my views align with Fly's", but actually ACT like your views align with me.

Instead, well, you're still trying to own the libs for using fake news to hurt Trump's feelings about the Patriots. You've made more posts about how upset you are about goofy calling that tweet savage(without ANY caveats!) than you've ever made about police brutality lol
Seriously Fly, I do not care what you think. I have explicitly explained why and exposed your hypocrisy and lies. Step away from the XBox and step outside and encounter real people. You may even meet some minorities, women, homosexuals, and real progressives and have some self-realization that you are an angry screeching internet neoliberal.

And I find it funny when you post tweets from Adam Johnson. I mean, you represent what people like that dude hate!
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:30 PM   #34
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Seriously Fly, I do not care what you think. I have explicitly explained why and exposed your hypocrisy and lies. Step away from the XBox and step outside and encounter real people. You may even meet some minorities, women, homosexuals, and real progressives and have some self-realization that you are an angry screeching internet neoliberal.

And I find it funny when you post tweets from Adam Johnson. I mean, you represent what people like that dude hate!
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:33 PM   #35
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:45 PM   #36
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Oh, and this thread already has too many of his tweets, but Danno you maybe should've checked out Johnson's relationship with your boy Trike Macey before inexplicably claiming him as one of yours
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:46 PM   #37
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Yeah I'm a little bit new to that Twitter account but it kinda seems like he wouldn't find Dan's posting here to be the best of looks.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:48 PM   #38
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Aww, hell, I'll just spring it right now. This sort of dialogue regarding anti-Trump protesters might seem VERY FAMILIAR to people who read this forum:

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Old 04-20-2017, 10:34 PM   #39
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Hmm, let us see what our favorite angry neoliberal FlyWF thinks of good ol Jonathan Chait, who Adam Johnson seems to think is a neoliberal wank...


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Chait, as usual, has a pretty good take:
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But the actual article I came here to post was Chait
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Jonathon Chait has a pretty good response:
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It's too bad there aren't mods to ban Jonathan Chait to protect your feelings, right, ikes?
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Anyway, good Chait today
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raradevils replied to my post which quoted Chait
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Chait is also pretty good on this:
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On an unrelated note, Chait has a great article
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you should go read the Chait NYmag article I linked t
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Chait on the racialization of American politics:
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Chait has a good article about this, touching on something this forum talked about like weeks ago:
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This is a kind of rambling Chait piece that, towards the end, really distills into some big points:
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Jonathon Chait makes an excellent point:
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Chait is stealing my lines:
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Chait kinda sums up:
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It's like Chait said,
Adam, please proceed..

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union-busting neoliberal Jon Chait wants SO BAD unions to be rightwing but they're just not.
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funny how Chait's interest in the black community only comes up when he's defending neoliberal institutions like Clinton & charter schools
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Neoliberal gatekeepers Vox, Slate, Jon Chait and Dana Milbank all agree Clinton won. Surprise.
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centrist functionaries scrambling to defend neoliberal orthodoxy are getting lamer & lamer. This must have been much easier pre-social media
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Another reminder that neoliberal (and libertarian) policies and racism are inextricably linked.
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Because Van Jones is a neoliberal hack and, like w/ charter schools, liberals are credulous stooges
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Neoliberal apologia + celebrity intellectual interviews + misleading graphs =
PEAK VOX
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Neoliberal propaganda outfit Vox doesnt bother asking *if* the TPP will have economic benefit but simply HOW BIG???
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After all, it cannot be the fault of capitalism or the neoliberal order or its avatar Clinton. It must be something else, anything else.
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Chait's definition of Marxism is not far off from the pepes in my mentions definition--which is to say simply "a plot to destroy the West"
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yes agreed. But Frum's musing on race are chait-level bad & are further proof liberals are way worse than leftists on this
Man, guy sure seems to have a pretty poor opinion of one of your favorite neoliberal heros Fly! But hey, I mean you manage to flip-flop around enough I am sure the cognitive dissonance doesn't sting too bad. Doesn't seem to be a huge fan of your boys Ezra Klein, Yglesias, Krugman and the gang either oh no!

But here, I will leave you with what was probably your best and truest post ever Fly, a favorite of mine! Reread it a few times and really think about things. Maybe pour yourself a stiff drink even.

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It turns out that literally everyone is much much much stupider than we thought. That includes Hillary and her staff.

Perhaps foremost among that, me. Literally every ****lib centrist Jon Chait reading dip**** needs to be quiet for the next ~ever. There wasn't a silent majority, there wasn't a great reawakening, but Hillary got 6 and a half million less votes than Obama while Trump got like 2 million less than Romney.

People are tired of our bull**** and we need to shut the **** up until someone else(not one of us! we have no ****ing credibility) figures out why.
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People are tired of our bull**** and we need to shut the **** up until someone else(not one of us! we have no ****ing credibility) figures out why.

You got that right. The truest words you have ever typed into the internet. Thanks for that.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:37 PM   #40
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So even if Johnson hates you, at least he hates Fly too? Strong.
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:12 PM   #41
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Yeah, man, you know that's a very good point. Chait has some good aspects and some bad aspects, just like Yglesias and Klein and Krugman. And one of his bad ones is caping for neoliberal hobby horses.

But here's the thing. And this is where you're so bad at this it hurts.

That last post of mine you so triumphantly bolded? You think it displays hypocrisy. I changed my mind given more information(oh and also Chait picked up some pretty ****ty tics along the way, obviously you aren't a reader so you wouldn't know, but you might guess at where I came out on the Ta-Nehisi Coates/Chait debate a few years back. Or, for example, what I think about Chait's constant hippy punching of college kids doing political correctness).

But let's return to this

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funny how Chait's interest in the black community only comes up when he's defending neoliberal institutions like Clinton & charter schools
Dan, what's your opinion on charter schools?

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Old 04-20-2017, 11:20 PM   #42
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What's YOUR opinion on Marxism?

Or to put it another way, after you spent 2008-2012 having just the most fascinating discussions with the most fascinating people at your poker table about how great Ron Paul is...


what changed your mind?

I mean I'm not on my 9th account, kind of a unfair advantage wrt how I can't really confront you with your old posts, but you know that if you think one of those Chait articles I praised was bad... maybe I'd agree that it is bad. I don't know, but sure, it's possible.

That doesn't make me a hypocrite. My politics have drifted left, and the failure of the Obama administration(as revealed by Clinton's defeat) accelerated that. How about you? You want to explain that ****ing political journey? If you do it sincerely and honestly there's no problem, the shame of being wrong in the past gets wiped out real easy by being right in the present.


Oh, one last thing about you doing this weird by proxy ****:

I guarantee my Grey Wolf status email from Patreon has an earlier date than yours, mostly because that sentence made no ****ing sense to you and you have no idea what I'm talking about. It is painfully clear that your only source of information about the liberal/left intercine squabbles is right wing concern trolling, it's not something you actually participate in, because you hate both liberals and the left.
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:28 PM   #43
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The point isn't that you are a hypocrite. The point is that

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It turns out that literally everyone is much much much stupider than we thought. That includes Hillary and her staff.

Perhaps foremost among that, me. Literally every ****lib centrist Jon Chait reading dip**** needs to be quiet for the next ~ever. There wasn't a silent majority, there wasn't a great reawakening, but Hillary got 6 and a half million less votes than Obama while Trump got like 2 million less than Romney.

People are tired of our bull**** and we need to shut the **** up until someone else(not one of us! we have no ****ing credibility) figures out why.
I think you lasted ~2 weeks? Far cry from ~ever, but I am sure you just learned oh so much. Read more son. Maybe take some mushrooms or see a psychiatrist?
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:34 PM   #44
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Oh great obviously you're going to dodge all my questions*, but you know me, always game.
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Hit me up, bruh. Where should I be going to get the spicy word memes?

*But hey, here's me being so helpful, I'll even answer those for him, and therefore explain why he dodged them

1) Dan likes charter schools and he's honestly a little confused at why they are being called neoliberal, he has absolutely no ****ing idea what the left wing critique of them would even LOOK like. (Dan doesn't know what the word neoliberal means)

2) Dan knows nothing about Marxism but dislikes it on general principles.

3) Nothing changed Dan's mind, he still loves Ron Paul, the newsletters weren't racist, audit the Fed, bring back the gold standard. It's just in 2016 anti-establishment people lost Dr. Paul and had to pick Trump or Bernie to latch onto, and Dan's coinflip came up B, but it's not like something in 2013 or 2014 turned Dan woke. He's out here sharing "Black conservative shuts down race-baiting libtards" videos for Christ's sake.

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Old 04-20-2017, 11:39 PM   #45
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Lol pathetic. Thanks as always for the helpful tips though! Crazy how I have zero interest in employing any of them despite my master plans you love to assert.

Maybe it has something to do with the whole you calling yourself a dumbass that doesn't know anything that needs to shut up for a while? Maybe
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Those aren't tips, you illiterate. They were questions and my best guess at your answers, because you dodged all my questions. Transparently.

Hey you want to really ****ing own me, take your own shot at answering them. We're up to 4 questions you dodged(one of which, Palin-style, was literally "what do you read"!), so really answer ONE of them. That'd really show me.
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Well c'mon man lets be real, there is literally no reason to engage in any intelligent discourse with you after our interactions up to this point. All you do is lie and make false claims and there are literally no answers I could say without you making more false accusations as to what lies in my 'heart of hearts'. Plus you pretty much avoided every single question I have asked you in the past, so there is no point.

I don't need to "own you". You owned yourself repeatedly and I have exposed you with your own words.

The fact you are a homophobic racist white dude is just icing and helps explain all of the self-hatred. You are what you hate, and that just has to be a rough way to go through life.
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You literally went through years of my posts looking for the word "Chait", you can't answer 4 questions?

Was it because I was right about my guesses on the first three and the one about "what do you read" is "the descriptions below Youtube videos about bitcoin"?

I would say there's a lot of evidence that's true, but again, incredibly easy for you to turn the tables on me with your sincere and very true list of left wing sources, left wing views on education, nuanced understanding of Marxism, and a wonderful story of how you went from dodging questions from people who called Ron Paul racist by shifting the topic to how pathetic and dishonest all those people were to agreeing with them.
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See above post, apply that extremely well educated and highly intelligent brain and think critically, I believe in you.
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I mean I'm not the biggest purity test guy for the liberal/left alliance given the grave threat posed by Trump but I would say that thinking Ron Paul is a dumb racist with bad policy views is a pretty low bar to clear there. Even easier if you want to say I'm wrong about my guess as to your prior account, maybe you don't even need to explain it as a journey, maybe you've always disliked Ron Paul? If so, just lay it out for me, I'm always down for some Dr. Paul bashing. My personal favorite is probably the hitpiece Jeb Lund did on him, but maybe you can link an even better takedown.

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