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07-06-2017 , 12:00 PM
I think if he hadn't done any protests he would just be another QB who peaked early and then couldn't get back on a team.
07-06-2017 , 02:22 PM
he is almost certainly on a team if hadnt done the whole protest thing. the only way he wouldnt be signed is if he was dead-set on an unfeasible contract amount.
07-06-2017 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
How'd they do the next year?
How did your high school football team do? How about college? Did you even play? I love how spectators are so quick to judge NFL players. Kind of like movie critics. If you can't do it, critique it, amirite?
07-06-2017 , 03:24 PM
You did a lot of playing did you? The fact is his skill set is such that without getting signed letters from GMs saying they aren't going to hire him because of his politics there is never going to be a clear case for him being black balled.
07-06-2017 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I'll retract what I said about the way he went about this being necessarily wrong.
Fair enough. Also, if you question his talent at QB that's a whole other story.

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I just have a tough time supporting a cause that creates pain in the hearts of a significant portion of society. There were veterans who supported Kap and there were some who did not. There were quite a few who felt hurt and betrayed.
I get that. But the smart ones who recognized the constitution they took an oath to uphold and fight for were the same ones who supported him.
08-09-2017 , 06:10 AM
Apparently, Kaep has agreed to stand for the anthem this coming year if someone will give him a job.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sparked-col...184335666.html
08-09-2017 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Apparently, Kaep has agreed to stand for the anthem this coming year if someone will give him a job.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sparked-col...184335666.html
Pussy. LOL!

Interesting in light of the Googler just fired.

Does

Kaep deserve a job - Yes/No?
James Damore deserve a job - Yes/No?
08-09-2017 , 10:28 AM
kaep is clearly being blackballed by the owners. that is explicitly illegal in the cba.
08-09-2017 , 10:33 AM
People forget before the kneeling for the anthem started he was the back up on one of the worst teams in football, doesn't sound like a guy who should be guaranteed a roster spot. If you are a good player you can get a job despite your actions, that's been proven many times in the NFL.
08-09-2017 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
kaep is clearly being blackballed by the owners. that is explicitly illegal in the cba.
You have to prove collusion. If each team decides on their own not to take him, that's their choice. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/03/24/co...on-free-agency

We are talking about a league that doesn't let you pick your own shoe style for goodness sake.

Media and entertainment companies do appear to have exemptions for "image" purposes.

That said - I simply contend that running quarterbacks don't last in the NFL and he's past his prime. If I were a coach or owner, I'd have to be scraping pretty low to take him.
08-09-2017 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
People forget before the kneeling for the anthem started he was the back up on one of the worst teams in football, doesn't sound like a guy who should be guaranteed a roster spot. If you are a good player you can get a job despite your actions, that's been proven many times in the NFL.


Have you asked SIRI about that kind of stuff?

And people can remember that white supremacists didn't simply disappear in the 80's- so how bad does a pro have to be to exceed stale old expectations of not acting like one knows their rights?
08-09-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
You have to prove collusion. If each team decides on their own not to take him, that's their choice. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/03/24/co...on-free-agency

We are talking about a league that doesn't let you pick your own shoe style for goodness sake.

Media and entertainment companies do appear to have exemptions for "image" purposes.

That said - I simply contend that running quarterbacks don't last in the NFL and he's past his prime. If I were a coach or owner, I'd have to be scraping pretty low to take him.
Yeah, I do not think Kap situation is important enough, he is good enough or the the league has control of the teams for the league to engage in behind the scenes discussions to keep him out of the league and believe that teams would actually follow those directions.

That said the league is composed of teams trying to maximize profits and that usually is done by winning and the excitement of the fan base. Signing Kap would risk some short term profit and most teams do not need to be told of the monetary impact and his lack of his expected impact on the field.
08-09-2017 , 12:14 PM
It just get's worse and worst more people get to admitting "yes he is excluded...with more and more excuses.

It contrasts better a highlight, the observation of Kaep is being excluded due to prejudice and bitterness.

Can see it is because of coercive expectations of bodily position during time not spent playing or practicing the game . The fans argument just confirms what becomes more obvious when taking in whole situation. That prejudices are involved and the more and more obvious discrimination needs more and more excuses.
08-09-2017 , 01:27 PM
Spank, he isn't obviously good enough for this to clearly him being blackballed. His baggage may exceed his talent which is on him, not the teams that pass on him.
08-09-2017 , 01:44 PM
Kap screwed up. He tried to be a hero but it didn't work. The fact that he is begging to get a job by promising not to kneel shows how disingenuous his protest was in the first place. He disrespected the flag and now he is being disrespected. He didn't even vote in the last election.

If he really wants a job, he should apologize to the police and to those who respect the flag. He should admit what he did was wrong. Unfortunately, he still sucks and is asking too much.

I do think he will get a job when a contending team gets desperate. This will give me another team to root against.
08-09-2017 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
He disrespected the flag and now he is being disrespected. He didn't even vote in the last election.

If he really wants a job, he should apologize to the police and to those who respect the flag.

Dude, you're not American.
08-09-2017 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
It just get's worse and worst more people get to admitting "yes he is excluded...with more and more excuses.

It contrasts better a highlight, the observation of Kaep is being excluded due to prejudice and bitterness.

Can see it is because of coercive expectations of bodily position during time not spent playing or practicing the game . The fans argument just confirms what becomes more obvious when taking in whole situation. That prejudices are involved and the more and more obvious discrimination needs more and more excuses.
You're just here to argue. I don't think you even care how stupid you sound. You're as disingenuous as Kap.
08-09-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
You're just here to argue. I don't think you even care how stupid you sound. You're as disingenuous as Kap.


You have no authority to make me or my neighbor stand on your haughty demand , so you are the one ultimately rejected. Yourself.
08-09-2017 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Kap screwed up. He tried to be a hero but it didn't work. The fact that he is begging to get a job by promising not to kneel shows how disingenuous his protest was in the first place. He disrespected the flag and now he is being disrespected.
Pretty much

Last edited by NoQuarter; 08-09-2017 at 02:19 PM. Reason: Poor Kap
08-09-2017 , 02:24 PM
Why are y'all sad? A non-human flag? Exposure doesn't help you all huh.
08-09-2017 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
You have no authority to make me or my neighbor stand on your haughty demand , so you are the one ultimately rejected. Yourself.
Does he have the authority to contrast better a highlight?
08-09-2017 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by frommagio
Does he have the authority to contrast better a highlight?


Watch out, this frommagio poster is a historically obsessive willful misunderstander.
08-09-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
Pretty much


You are just comfort seeking because no matter what, people now know their rights and remember. You and mongers' convenient pity narrative interjects failure where one actually greatly succeeded. It's permanently sad for supremacists.
08-09-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Watch out, this frommagio poster is a historically obsessive willful misunderstander.
Yes, I have historically had trouble understanding what you are saying. Does that make me a human flag?
08-09-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by frommagio
Yes, I have historically had trouble understanding what you are saying. Does that make me a human flag?


Stalk someone else.

      
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