I'd love to make 16.5 million a year being a slave.

"Be careful what you ask for, you may just get it."

Come on, everyone knows you'd do it for free.

That it's hyperbole is so obvious that it doesn't need to be pointed out. No one thinks he literally means slave patrols. Hyperbole is a device sometimes used to draw comparisons, sometimes productively so. I think it's more effective when used in real time because it can be disarming against someone expecting only literal meanings.

In this case I happen to think it's a poor use of hyperbole. The system isn't too much trying to extract labor from black people at this point, but more so trying to round them up and use other means to diminish their political power (same as with poor whites). However I disagree in principle with you that the metaphor is bad because it's hyperbolic. There is a place for hyperbole.

I suspect this is gonna radically change in the near future. We're essentially seeing the endgame of the right-wing propaganda machine.

I mean... trump, right?

We have poor white "trash" people, and I'm talking trump voters on record, on welfare and getting harassed by the police, complaining about minorities being on welfare and bring criminals, et cetera et cetera and other absurdities. That whole "we're all n****rs here" sentiment you'll find in pockets all over is officially dead and buried on a national level and I suspect the poor white people are going to be rewarded for it, however subtly and superficially. That's the logic behind the fierce nationalism. In a perfect world none of these people "should" have, and I feel like that word needs scare quote even with the qualifier of a perfect world, gotten behind the NY billionaire in the golden penthouse.

"No one is more hopelessly enslaved than he who thinks he's free"

The problem is that he put his individual issues above his team. His anger with the treatment of minorities is real and noble. But what if one of his teammates has his issues that we don't spend enough on Alzheimer's. And someone else thinks we spend more on addiction treatment and mental services. And another thinks that our government fails to help with public transportation. And another one is concerned about autism. They all take knees protesting something that needs to change.

Unfortunately, this didn't go over well and he is a huge economic risk and distraction to any other team. There will definitely be fans that will be vociferously opposed and boo him. It is not that they don't believe what he stood for or are racist. They think it was the wrong forum. Right or wrong, they vote with their dollars.


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lol at distraction. not a single player reported him as such. neither did any coach. and his head coach esp praised his work ethic and focus and team leadership.

Do you think a coach is really going to say what is on his mind and deal with the leftist backlash?

considering that very coach has gone to the media about other players being distractions and even accused one of his previous stars of being a gang member, I am absolutely positive that chip kelly would not have restrained himself from denigrating kaep, esp since it would have made chip look better.

Victor is correct.

Furthermore, The coach might not bash him out of fear of the leftist media, but he's not going to shout his praises for that reason.

I would guess that everyone on his team admires his commitment. Have you guys seen his list of charitable giving?

What I love here, is who the 'Leftists' are... Goodell, York, and by collaboration, the rest of the NFL team owners.

We really have reached the point where 'left/right' has absolutely no meaning to these fools... except that everyone who isn't exactly them is a 'Leftist'. This reminds me a lot of how the LTers use to call everyone else 'Statist' back in the day.

clearly that's not who he meant by leftist backlash

Uh, Goodell (fines y/o suspensions) & York (the boot) are exactly the only folks would have been in any position to do any backlashing.

The funny thing is these fools really do consider NFL owners (and NBA owners too, for buying out the Sterlings) to in fact actually be 'Leftists'.

I think he meant all the hurtful shouty downing coach would have had to endure if he told us the truth about how Kap was tearing the team inside out with his unreasonable demands to treat brown people like human beings.

Nothing wrong with what he's fighting for, much wrong with how he did it. He would have a job right now if he didn't kneel. Just look at some of the QBs who have been signed to be back ups. He is much better than them. Part of the problem is teams don't wanna deal with what will certainly be a distraction just to sign Kap as a back up. The other problem is he is asking too much.

He would never play for my team.

Right.
Why do you think it was wrong? After listening to the initial uproar, I also thought it was a bratty and unpatriotic way to bring attention to himself. Why not do it some other way or lend his name to a protest, etc.? But when I heard his explanation that he wasn't proud enough to stand for the anthem of a country that executed unarmed black people I changed my tune. Free speech dude. He has every right not to kneel (and it's also worth noting that he did eventually choose to compromise by kneeling, instead of sitting). And by now it's obvious that this was never about himself, but an important cause. Is there any doubt that this was the very best way to bring attention to it?

As for him not being picked up a team, that just goes to show that they care more about the almighty dollar and want to make sure they don't alienate their fan base. Says more about them than it does about Kaepernick who not only isn't as wealthy as the owners, but has donated money in addition to the money he's losing standing up for an important cause.

Why? Because you think what he did was unpatriotic? If you consider yourself patriotic, do you not believe that Americans are entitled to freedom of expression?

Everyone seems to be forgetting that Kaepernick really sucked at his job.

Yeah, taking a team to the Super Bowl really sucks. I wish i sucked like that. I bet you do too.

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He was part of a very good team back then. I wouldn't say he took them. Some would argue they would have had more success with Alex Smith. He certainly had his moments and you can't argue with his physical abilities. He can sling it down field, but don't ask him to do some of the subtler things a good QB needs to do.

Another problem with signing Kap is that you have to tailor the game plan to his skill set. It's no coincidense he had some success with Chip Kelly. He's kind of like an upgraded version of Tim Tebow.

I think you can creditably argue both sides of this debate. I'll retract what I said about the way he went about this being necessarily wrong. I don't think he saught out the publicity. I do think that drastic measures are often needed to bring attention to an important subject. My disdain for Kap comes from several areas. I remember when he first started with the 49ers. I thought he was cocky and way overrated as a player. He certainly was happy to take full advantage of his new found fame and fortune. I knew the hoopla was premature. I also don't like some of the things he did and said prior to the controversy. I'm not a fan of putting your cause ahead of your teams( his actions were more selfish than malicious) but nonetheless could have caused harm to the team. I realize the NFL bares some responsibility for introducing the anthem into the game.

I just have a tough time supporting a cause that creates pain in the hearts of a significant portion of society. There were veterans who supported Kap and there were some who did not. There were quite a few who felt hurt and betrayed.

I think folks like Kap would be better served focusing on communicating with and educating those who may be ignorant of what is going on. I think there is too much "us against them" in this world and I don't think it is a healthy way to think about it. Both sides will just continue to build up their defences. I think a paradigmic shift in attitude and tactic is needed for significant change to occur.

How'd they do the next year?

Problem with giving him most of the credit for the two good seasons is that you need to talk about all the seasons after he signed the big contract. Including the last 2 seasons where the coaches thought it was a toss up between him and Gabbert. Would anyone care if Gabbert was out of the league? I mean he is fighting for the third string job with the Cardinals on a 1 year 900,000 deal (not sure if it is even guaranteed). Doubt Kap would even consider such a deal.