It's obvious that there is a problem with how black people are viewed in this country. People are generally scared of them because they are viewed as violent.

There are two ways to "fix" that. Either everyone has to teach themselves to not be scared of them, or their behavior has to change.

My view is without a doubt the 2nd option is light years better in terms of bettering their lives as a whole. The thing is, I don't know how that can be accomplished.

So, we will continue to try option 1, which we have been doing for decades, and is doing absolutely nothing to help the black community.

Personally I'm sick of dealing with it. White people will never stop talking about it, because they caused it. Well, you guys deal with it, because it's absolutely exhausting.

I think the claim by Kaepernick et al is that there is systematic oppression of blacks with drug laws and their enforcement being one example. So I guess you could arguably put that under option 2, don't do drugs. Unfair expectations for blacks as opposed to other ethnic groups/races? Probably but ymmv. Is it feasible? Not sure.

The drug laws disproportionately hurt minorities, absolutely I agree.

Probably? YMMV?

LOL, some of you guys crack me up. "Don't do drugs" - Damn! If only somebody hadn't suggested that earlier.

How should black people change their behavior so they'll seem less scary to you?

Don't do drugs. Don't be criminals. Don't wear hoodies. Don't give cops attitude. Only rap about roses. Don't be poor. C'mon man - just simple things they can do.

You do yourself no favors.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that whole "walking down the middle of the street" thing too.

Don't know, honestly. But what's happening now simply isn't working. The situation with black people in this country just isn't getting better. The numbers are shockingly awful.

Blaming white people for their problems simply doesn't work. If the numbers had a trend of improving over the last few decades I'd say "**** it, keep doing it", but its not.

Republicans are right. Inner cities have been dominated by democratic liberal leadership for how many years now? Are things "good" in those environments? No, they are absolutely terrible. Bad neighborhoods, bad schools, and the cycle continues.

Oh, and I'm not scared of them at all. I treat them like normal people and they sense it. At least, that's what it seems. I've had much more racism towards me come from whites than blacks. Much more.

Not sure what you're getting at here.

Oh gee, where have I seen this before?

"Hey Wil, if we have such a problem with the Muslims and things need to change, what do you think we should do to help with that change?"

*Throws up hands, shrugs shoulders, mumbles something about liberals being the problem.*

"Hey Wil, you say black people need to change in order to help fascilitate change in our country and make things better. What can they do to change things to make it better for themselves?"

*Throws up hands, shurgs shoulders, mumbles something about black people and liberals making things worse.*

What a disgusting piece of **** you are.

Compared to what? Pretending everything is cool? Lol. Knock yourself out bro, everything is just dandy! Nothing to see here, move along.

I think you know. Your reputation precedes you, which you dispute, and then you spew a post like that.

I guess I Poe's Lawed myself here.

I'm not "spewing" anything. That's what I believe. My views on this topic have been consistent. If you have an issue with it, that's fine, but it's not like I've all of a sudden changed my tune.

Nah, wil's right. When blaming the perpetrators of racial violence doesn't achieve the desired outcome, there's no other choice but to blame the victims. "Dear black people, please stop seeming so scary and violent. kthx" Good chat.

FYP
Not sure what wil's point is. If you are going to quote then quote accurately. Unfair to make stuff up wouldn't you agree? What probability would you assign to the expectations for blacks being unfair? I'd bet a fair amount that you'll agree with me that the expectations are probably unfair. Troll on.

In what case of blaming the perpetrators of racial violence are we talking about, exactly? And when I say blaming others, I'm not referring to violence at all.

Uh... how am I not quoting accurately when I quoted exactly what you said? It's especially delicious when you 'quoted' me and changed the words.

The expectations are 100% unfair. That should be obvious.

List the 3 most common ways racial violence is perpetrated please.

I'm sure one is:

1) Racist cops profiling and targeting blacks.

Show me where I posted Probably? YMMV?


Very few things are 100% certain but I'm glad we agree on the point I made. Troll on, you win. See ya enjoy your cyber stalking. This site has really become a weird place, scary and sick.

A: Probably.
B: Probably?
A: Stop misquoting me.

FYI, racism is inherently violent. LOL at flailing around trying to distinguish between some kind of benign "non-violent" racism and that which results in actual bloodletting.

It is? I never thought if it that way.

Doesn't matter. The current state of affairs when it comes to race just won't work. It won't get better unless there is an internal change.

Let me repeat that : it will never get better continuing down this path.

There are two absolutes in this country.

1) things are unfair
2) no one is going to give you anything

Those who realize these two things quickly in life get on with things and can find happiness. Those who don't wind up bitter and resentful. Proceed accordingly.

It's bootstrap time!