It's a amazing how closed minded or maybe the word is brainwashed you guy's are. Wil is 100% right and his responses are very well thought out. There is nothing more to debate about the hoodie topic. Read our responses and learn.

The problem is you don't want to learn. You would prefer to be right than happy.

What do you think the increased probability of being mistaken for a criminal is by wearing a hoodie?

What do you think the increased probability of being mistaken for an elk while wearing antlers is?


Do you think there's an increased probability of being mistaken for a bank robber just by entering a bank with your hands in your pocket is? And if so, should you make sure you always enter a bank with your hands out and clearly visible?


Edit: Obviously, I don't need exact numbers. Just ball park it for me.

The irony is baffling! It is YOU who continues to be closed minded and sadly fail to "read our responses". This entire hoodie debate is a complete derail from the real topic of discussion. As someone above said you don't victim blame! It's no different than turning on the news only to find out a women has been raped in your local area and your immediate response is "Oh, what was she wearing?"...


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I disagree. The prevailing line of thought now is that all white people are racist. I've never felt that way. Sure, some or even a lot of white people are racist. I would never say all. I won't tell others how to feel but watching you guys constantly carrying this white guilt is cringey from over here. You guys should feel bad, don't get me wrong, but how far you take this guilt is absurd and its being used against you. Shrug. Not my problem.

No, but your response is pretty telling why Mat clipped your balls off. Good job Kerowo, you consistently prove yourself to be a dickbag.

Bahahaha, what an unbelievably stupid *******

So again, all those girls dressed up for a night of dancing totally deserved the date rape, right?

I mean, they were dressed up as sluts. Its not the guy's fault that they were mistaken for one, right?

I'm gonna try to say this gently and this goes for all of you. Close the mouth and open your eyes and ear's.

Obviously! The person to blame is the rapist. Obviously the girl who gets raped does not deserve it. The fact you even asked that question is an extreme show of ignorance.

I live my life by what I call the "Rodney King Rule"...did he deserve to be beaten the way he was? No....did he put himself in that situation? Yes

I try to avoid putting myself into situations were the consequences of my actions are out of my control.

Pretty simple isn't it?

"The Rodney King rule" where do you come up with this ****...

mongidig, you missed my questions!

He didn't deserve it! He just totally put himself in the place where it would happen!

Makes perfect sense

Your taking my examples to literally. My point is if you are doing something that increases the chances of a bad result, you may want to reconsider your actions.

I mentioned the Rodney King Rule. It's worked well for me. Some people like to take risks, others are more conservative. The choice is yours. unfortunately, the consequences of your actions are not always in your control.

Antlers..17%

Hands in pocket..2%

Hoodie...26%

Exactly!

Let's see if the others are good learners like you.

Please note this nutjob actually put me on ignore after some massive butthurt.

Yeah, so the thing this always misses is that these situations you avoid aren't actually impacting your life the same way they do others. Risk tolerance is a thing, and yes, we might all be inclined to avoid walking through the wrong part of town alone at night, but it's not really the same that's expected for all demographics.

For example, I know women that won't leave a drink on the bar to go to the toilet, because someone might slip something in it. They're inclined to stay in a group because someone might harass them.

And then we have this inane conversation about how black guys shouldn't wear a ****ing hoodie because maybe someone will get the wrong impression. They best not be walking through a rich neighbourhood with a backpack because it'll look like they're casing houses.

So while it is somewhat analogous to a white guy watching his wallet for pickpockets on a crowded train, the total impact and overall repressive effect it has on people is not the same. And at some point it becomes a pretty good idea to look at society at large and not the individuals doing absolutely nothing they shouldn't be entitled to do.

The lack of self-awareness knows no bounds.

Bladesman always seems to post right after I do. Let me guess, he's chewing on the carpet again?

Does anybody else find it hilarious that Wil thinks I actually have his stupid ass on ignore rather than just deciding not to read any of his ****ing posts. What a stupid pile of ****

Hah, I bet he confused me with you. I have his stupid ass on ignore. Because he's stupid and verbose - but not in the entertaining way that Jiggs/Deuces usually are.

I find it funny that mongoloid thinks hoodies are so highly correlated to criminals but antlers aren't that correlated with elk. Who knew?


And my point is that if we actually used this stupid logic - there would be nothing you aren't responsible for. Security guard kills a guy walking into a bank with his hands in his pockets - no sympathy. Dude should have known to walk in with his hands in the air.

Family gets killed by drunk driver. No sympathy! They should have known not to drive where drunk people might be driving.

And so on. Your whole outlook is absurd.

Oh you are just acting like a child again?

Lol @ you. You've harassed and attacked me and demanded I answer your idiotic questions for how long now? And now you're all alone (awwww) you put your head in the sand?

God damn. Grow some balls. Master when I call you a bitch I really didn't think you'd take it this far. Lol I actually feel bad for you.

Avoiding or not avoiding people who might do you harm doesn't make you responsible or not for what those others do. Not does it mean no sympathy.

I'm sometimes more wary of dangerous drivers on the road that other times. I think it's good to be wary but either way it's still their fault if one of them does something really stupid and causes an accident. There's one occasion when I've been wary of the police as well, it would have been more than one if I wasn't white.

Back on topic: Kaepernick is getting decent air time in the uk as well

This whole risk tolerance thing is just one of those intuitive ideas that sounds great but becomes absurd once extended to a certain level or when certain demographics get disproportionately impacted.

We can play the analogy game all day long. I've had some nasty injuries from doing a risky sport for years that I could've avoided by not taking part. Fine. I might hide my phone/wallet while walking through a dark alley. Not a great reflection of society, but still somewhat reasonable. But then when we get into "you can't have a few drinks like half of society does" or "best not wear a hoodie" we might might need to start thinking a little deeper.

It becomes ridiculous if people are arguing that avoiding the risk is a part of the solution. It's part of how we manage an unacceptable situation.

People will assess the risk badly, people are rubbish at estimating risk. While it's good to tackle that, it's not in itself a big political issue and many would rather err on the side of being too careful - or more accurately, want their loved ones to do so.

You don't get it. That's your problem

Stop repeating the same ignorant examples to prove your point. Ive already owned you on those topics.

If you continue to not accept things as they are,you will continue to play the part of the bitter victim!