I agree with Tooth on this. Anyone calling muslims "inbreeding rednecks" deserves to be banned.

I'm talking about that Pakistani group in the UK where 70% marry their cousins, not "Muslims". Note your dishonesty:
I did not say British Muslims. I was talking factually about this particular group. And there was no "implication" - the fact that 55% of British Pakistani Muslims marry their first cousins is, um, a fact:
This is a factual statement. Muslims even defend the practice in that article. That you find a factual statement about someone to be bigoted means you yourself are bigoted.

Again, if it's ok to call southerners inbreeding rednecks - and they do it plenty in the time in politics, despite no factual basis - then it's ok to call a group where 70% marry their cousins, inbreeders, when there is a factual basis. The issue comes where you broadly disparage, as Michael has done - implying that all Muslims are stupid. There is no basis for that and it's a horrible thing to say.

Yes, and I stand by that. Anyone calling all Muslims inbred (and stupid because of it) should be banned. However, if 55% of British Pakistani Muslims marry their first cousins, they are inbred. Geneticists below say exactly that. And if they defend it, they are rednecks.

This is the response to forced first cousin marrying in the Pakistani Muslim community, and the genetic defects that's creating at high rates:
What would politics say if this was southerners?

I realize you're of the view that "anyone saying negative things about a non-white-male group is a racism", but if we can't factually discuss women being forced to marry their first cousins in Britain, and mock the hilariously absurd response from the leaders of the community where this happens, then I don't know what to say...

Awwww leaves has a sad.

TS, You're going to have to cut out the 'inbred' stuff

You selectively cherry pick facts that support your twisted world view and ignore ones that do not. You are a vile bigot who supports the rhetoric of 'Christian' racists who would just as happily purge you from the earth. You could easily debunk the myths that so easily come off your tongue, but instead you repeat hateful bigotry.

I would have figured that someone who lies constantly would actually get better at it.

I learned something today.

That's the smoking gun post I was looking for just now, which he furiously back-pedalled from when it came up in another thread, claiming he was only agreeing with part of Michael's post lol

Sure.

It has to be for a substantial amount though to make it worthwhile. Escrow and terms would have to be agreed on. I'm also willing to bet I have way more money than you as well if you like.

Sure. It's not even of interest to me, people just keep bringing it up. "Inbred" is a factual statement - non pejorative - for a population in which >50% marry their first cousins. But I won't bring it up if nobody else does by way of attacking me. Easy?

You're setting a baseline of moderation/acceptable speech here that ensures this forum will be populated by right-of-center and non-bigoted people further left (excludes most of P). I'm really happy about that.

I appreciate your honesty. Truthfully I wasn't expecting that answer, in a way this is you admitting that we have legitimate complaints about the main forum and its modding.

Ready to stand by this hate speech Tooth or going to back away from this as well?

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

Islam is both misogynist and xenophobic. Those are non-hateful, factual statements about a religion (Islam) - NOT a people.

If you haven't read the Koran, or the life of Muhammed (who ordered 600 people either have their heads cut off and the women and children taken into (sexual) slavery) that's a problem of your ignorance, not mine.

This is a factual statement:
This proves it:

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_K...ed_by_Muhammad

And the lifelong exploits of Muhammed, the hundreds of items of xenophobic speech in the Koran, makes that a factual statement.

And again, I haven't backed from anything. You have trouble understanding finer points.

How is it any different than the parts of the Bible that 'condone' slavery and cannibalism? Care to enlighten us about the worst out of context quotes of Judaism? Let me guess, you don't read those religions sideways because it does not correspond with your BIGOTRY?

Pretty sweet btw that you posting a known hate site, wikiislam that could be debunked with exactly 15 seconds of googling. Also you continue to promote obvious crap like:

Let's be clear, when you inflammatory things about entire groups of people the burden of proof is on you to KNOW that it is both literally and principality factual before posting. Anything else is BIGOTRY. I find your literal 'factual' claims dubious at best and principally they are obviously false. That makes you, definitionally, a BIGOT.

Could you expand on this, which sources are better for statistics on these 'factual' matters than the ones TS uses?

Ones that aren't known 'critique of islam' sites as shown by their home page?

Jesus

I think your problem is with the folks who are engaging in the acts described in the factual information TS presents

Yes, it may be disturbing factual information, but it is equally disturbing to disallow this factual information to be learned...in my country...where this very websites HQ resides

He mostly refers to PEW and such well respected research centers encompassing a wide range of polling . I believe 50-53% number came from them and the 'circle of doom'.

This is the level of mind-blowing ignorant idiocy I'm dealing with. Everything in that statement is completely factual. WTF is wrong with you?



This is from data from Pew Global, a reliable polling organization, which undertook the largest poll of Muslims ever done -38,000 over many countries. I showed how the ball is in face understated, from Pew data, here:

I mean, this is literally a ****ing fact.

I have repeatedly and meticulously documented my claims, from reliable sources. If you don't like WikiIslam - which merely a factual, critical site, not hate a site, read about the Invasion of Banu Qurayza on Wikipedia.
This is ISIS level activity. Muhammed was a vile, brutal war criminal. He beheaded hundreds of men and took all their women and children captive. Sexual and other slaves were a large part of Muslim culture at the time. This is one example of many. He married his cousin. He married and had sex with a 9 year old.

Everything I post is factual. That you don't know this is incredible - and show the kind of mad PC world that the Chezlaws are building.

I don't want to talk about this stuff about the Muslim thread. But people keep attacking me for things I say - claiming I'm lying, making things up, when what I post is completely factual and supported by mountains of undeniable evidence.

I mean, I get it, Regret$. If I believed that a "tiny minority" of Muslims had radical/incredibly fundamentalist beliefs (like the media full of chezlaws broadly lies to you about), and someone claimed it was actually the majority, I'd think that guy was a crazy bigot too with no facts behind him.

Reality is reality. It's facts that are informing my commentary, and nothing else. Notice how I never mention Sikhs? Jains? Buddhists? That's because there aren't a huge number of them with absolutely ghastly, misogynist, xenophobic beliefs, who literally live by those beliefs en masse. Thus there's nothing of interest/concern.

Maybe there is a problem with the media no? Afaik there has been some disinformation and proven shinanigans over the course of, o the last, ermm, decades, perpetrated by "major media outlets" resulting in major public distrust in the "major media outlets"

Who is to say the "major media outlets" arent deliberately withholding this incest information? Resulting in the only people doing so being the "fringe" or "fake" media....hmm how about that

Think about my last two sentences...genius if in fact "major media outlets" had an agenda amirite?

How many different people own said "major media outlets" is a cool question to explore as well

lol @ NWO, death from within , divide and conquer &..

...Amirite?

Have you ever known a muslim, if so did they believe in stoning women for adultery? If the answers are yes and no respectively then he has already failed the bull**** test.

Wow. Just wow. This is the level of debate the left are bringing here...

Chez, this is what you get when you create PC culture.

Yes noquarter I have a problem with people quoting sites as fact when they are clearly only spreading bigoted hate.

Love how all those statistics Tooth puts up he doesn't include figures on any 'civilized' country, just middle eastern dictatorships.

Again he posts the claim that Mohammed married a 9 year old when that claim was debunked already. He is a vile bigot that should be banned from the site. He is a class A hypocrite and a racist. He has been asked politely to stop spewing hate and he continues on.

Watching TS post the same garbage over and over again is like watching a child testing its parent to see how far it can go before measures are taken against it.