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Intelligent doesn't mean perfect. That's an ideal we conjure. If it was perfect no need to adapt, no wonder of discovery, no mystery. **** perfect. Doesn't mean it was designed either. Is spontaneous designed?

11-13-2015 , 03:38 AM

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And making us fornicate where we pee is just a bit dickish.

This

11-13-2015 , 03:43 AM

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It looks like this hasnt been posted yet:
Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory

11-13-2015 , 04:25 AM

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"Traditional scientists admit that they cannot explain how gravitation is supposed to work," Carson said. "What the gravity-agenda scientists need to realize is that 'gravity waves' and 'gravitons' are just secular words for 'God can do whatever He wants.'"

Amen!

11-13-2015 , 07:28 AM

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Intelligent Design lolz on a poker forum demands I post this:

11-13-2015 , 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

So you're saying it shouldn't be call Intelligent Design, it should be called Dumb Luck?

You may need to read up more on what ID means.

11-13-2015 , 08:55 AM

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It looks like this hasnt been posted yet:
Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory

This was funny lol

11-13-2015 , 09:10 AM

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Nobody said perfect.

But breathing through where we eat? That's just a choking hazard.

11-13-2015 , 09:13 AM

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So you're saying it shouldn't be call Intelligent Design, it should be called Dumb Luck?

You may need to read up more on what ID means.

Lol no.
Kerowo's posts are evidence that unintelligent designers do exist. Behold, the inquisition of an accusatory moran.

11-13-2015 , 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Intelligent doesn't mean perfect.

No, it means guided, that something chose the way it would happen.

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Doesn't mean it was designed either. Is spontaneous designed?

Design does actually mean design.

11-13-2015 , 10:04 AM

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No, it means guided, that something chose the way it would happen.

Design does actually mean design.

You cherry-picked my post.

11-13-2015 , 10:06 AM

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How can an intelligent designer design something that is creatively spontaneous while that something can't be spontaneous if it is pre-designed?

11-13-2015 , 11:08 AM

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How can an intelligent designer design something that is creatively spontaneous while that something can't be spontaneous if it is pre-designed?

I'm not sure I understand this tortured question, but RNG.

11-13-2015 , 11:29 AM

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I'm not sure I understand this tortured question, but RNG.

That is a painless idea, but it is indicative of a paradox that comes with presupposing a designed universe which contains the concept of spontaneity.

11-13-2015 , 11:33 AM

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I don't know what you're trying to say. I've just told you something designed that can be spontaneous.

There's also the possibility that what you consider spontaneity is actually determined.

11-13-2015 , 11:38 AM

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It's a simple question; do you think there is a power behind everything you see in the universe or do you think there isn't. Trust Spank to complicate something simple.

11-13-2015 , 11:41 AM

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I don't know what you're trying to say. I've just told you something designed that can be spontaneous.

There's also the possibility that what you consider spontaneity is actually determined.

A RNG simulates spontaneity. It is a deterministic attempt to re-create spontaneity. I refer to spontaneity being considered as an attribute of the universe, and to a finer point humans, One that coexists with determination and creates a conceptual paradox that seems to fit in a 'spooky' universe.

11-13-2015 , 11:42 AM

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It's a simple question; do you think there is a power behind everything you see in the universe or do you think there isn't. Trust Spank to complicate something simple.

I don't answer to your inquisitions in this thread. You have been told.

11-13-2015 , 11:45 AM

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Dumb****, it's the topic of the thread. Not answering a question defining the topic of the thread is pretty direct evidence you're just a giant biased *******. Keep spewing your spam spank, that's what everyone likes about you, your predictability...

11-13-2015 , 11:51 AM

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No need to be hateful while interrogating me about what you presume are my personal beliefs.

So far all my posts ITT would be fine in a science, religion or philosophy educational setting with people of good-will who are curious about the universe.

So as the topic is about the political fight around how to discuss the diverse views on the universe in schools, I am right in par.

If that makes you emotional I would go take a break.

11-13-2015 , 11:57 AM

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What's the difference between a true RNG "simulating" spontaneity and actual spontaneity?

Even if there is some meaningful distinction, why can't that distinction apply to a universe that is designed to simulate spontaneity?

11-13-2015 , 12:06 PM

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What's the difference between something real and something simulated? The amount of accurate knowledge about the real object available to the designer of the simulated object.

Simulation is clearly useful, purposeful, and satisfying. But,

Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby.

11-13-2015 , 12:30 PM

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What's the difference between something real and something simulated?

That's what I just asked you, ffs.

The rest of what you said seemed to have the hallmarks of a sentence, but I'm not sure it counts.

11-13-2015 , 12:48 PM

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That's what I just asked you, ffs.

The rest of what you said seemed to have the hallmarks of a sentence, but I'm not sure it counts.

The answer to your question is that it depends.

It depends on the amount and veracity of knowledge about the object being simulated which is available to the designer of the simulation.

This consideration leads to whether or not there is a meaningful distinction between an concept/object which is real and it's potential simulations.

11-13-2015 , 12:54 PM

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Still sounds like word salad.

I'm trying to figure out why you don't consider something like the hands dealt on PokerStars something which is both spontaneous and yet the product of design.

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