So for someone who wants to know these stats, there is no valid resource summarizing them? Even though the data is made available but takes time and effort to compile. One would think that it would be in everyone's interest to set the record straight. That is unless the actual results are politically sensitive, which seems much more likely than your explanation.

ive given you the violent crime stats already. they're itt. there are no seperately adjusted rape/sexual assault stats but quickly looking at the raw numbers they look in line with everything else. you can almost certainly just use the violent crime numbers.

oops, supposed ro read "certain faction of.." as it has been in all recent posts that have been deleted. Funny how your comments look to your lying , Luciferian Lefties favor absent the censored truth

Misstype is all, good effort tho

I am looking at this again http://www.dst.dk/Site/Dst/Udgivelse...4&sid=indv2016

Can you point me to the chart showing violent crime?

My Danish ain't tip top, but I can't see it.

These are communists calling a moderate party -by western standards- on immigration and other issues a Nazi party.

FFS, they link me to a sites with a hammer and sickle as their main banner!

btw, I am not a Swedish democrat, like I was active in the party. I will be voting for them for the first time in 2018 though. They will be our largest political party and we will make Sweden great again!

i actually thought there where better numbers than this. i kinda hate the socioeconomic adjustment but here's violent crime for men (women from any group commit few violent crimes) based on country of origin. add some to maybe 25% to make up for the socioeconomic adjustment

i have no idea what youre trying to say here, but none of it is suicide. it's depressing that some groups have high crime rates by swedish/danish standards but in many fairly well-functioning countries they wouldnt be out of the ordinary.

im not really a lefty at all either. just mildly socially liberal.

Thanks.

Why are Danish natives not listed? index 100 seems to be for the entire population including immigrants, Swedes for example have index 54.

The spread among nationalities is pretty large especially considering that socioeconomic adjustments have been made. Certainly I believe that this deserves attention in Sweden with much larger immigration numbers where similar recent stats are withheld from the public.

What do they have to hide?

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Make Sweeden Quisling Again

So USA #1?

you have danish origin listed in this one



i thought the descendent number was a little smaller than this actually (the socioeconomic adjustment is very small though because education and income is close).

I seen this one, but it is for all crime, not only violent crime.

Anyhow, it is pretty obvious that much of the left are pretty ignorant on these issues(not you), when their best rebuttal is, "have you considered socioeconomic factors?" dismissing that they only explain 20-50% of the over-representation depending on factors included, even though I made it perfectly clear that i considered socioeconomic factors since the very beginning.

the third line, "vold", is the violent crime section of the criminal code (i think)

Innocent people have no need to participate with crime stats which include them and are used for discrimination.

yeah crime stats are used to justify punishing/taking away rights for entire population groups where maybe 99% have hardly done anything wrong. im perfectly fine with them not being recorded based on stuff like etnicity

Everyone participates in crime statistics, the innocent are still innocent.

Also I am not advocating for any kind of discrimination, rather I feel that these are factors that need to be considered for long term sustainable immigration policies.

Certain types of immigration greatly benefit the host nation while other types may be harmful. We can not keep pretending that these differences do not exist.

There is not 8x the rape convictions for immigrants compared to danes in Denmark.

When you dont have the stats its based on there is not much anyone can do with the graph, its as useful as something you made paint.

What do expect here? Should someone spend hours looking through stats from the page Marn links to, compare danes vs immigrants, adjust for age, socio-economic background, write a paper on danish rapes stats.

The chart does not adjust for age or socioeconomic background and it compares conviction rates of non-western immigrants to native Danes, not all immigrant. Nothing I have seen so far has contradict the chart.

so I should take your word that the stats are good

does that mean you will trust any stat/graph i post, you wont need any sources or proof?

or should people who want discuss this stuff give sources for the stats and graphs they bring up?

I was hoping Marn could show us where the data came from. Then, is that the same source as the data daca cited? Do they fit? Is one derived from the other? In other words, is daca's cited data just Marn's but adjusted for some socio-economic factors?

I can't read Danish. I think Marn and daca's discussion so far has been helpful, and I'm thinking they might have more on this. Can you read Danish and interpret the data they have presented?

It looks like there is a discrepancy, but I just don't know. 8X is huge, but looking down the vold column on daca's cited data it appears an index from zero to about 2X. I haven't averaged them, but that wouldn't even make sense, because we would need a weighted average to get to Marn's cited graph.

If I understand Marn's conjecture or question about that, I gather that the numbers in that column are an index of the violent crime rate for the given country normalized for some socio-economic factors and normalized to the Danish total population as 1.0. Not sure if that is correct, so I'm waiting to see if they will make that clear.

Edit: meant to quote/respond to Subterranean2

by far the biggest factor is the age adjustment btw. both immigrants and especially descendents of immigrants skew far younger than people of danish origin and 70 year olds just dont commit crimes.

my best guess is chart is roughly accurate before those adjustments, but would look like the ordinary violent crime figures after them.

it's also worth keeping in mind that 12 immigrants and 4 descendents of non-western immigrants were convicted of rape in denmark last year. if those 16 people are why youre considering making life worse for entire population groups then youre the villain imo.

Jeez, your conviction rate must be awful, I am looking at the figure 744 reported rapes in 2016 in Denmark. Are many of the convictions delayed perhaps due to an outdrawn juridical process?

http://www.thelocal.dk/20170201/repo...e-in-two-years

I am rooting for all immigrants to assimilate as well as possible, I don't want to make life harder for anyone in the country except the criminals. I am viewing this from the perspective of immigration policy.

total number of people convicted of rape



that's only rape, so not every kind of sexual crime and it's the number of people convicted so one person can have committed more than one crime.

I got the chart from here https://fredricmorenius.wordpress.co...ursprungsland/

Fredrik morenius is head of this political movement http://www.borgerligframtid.se/

he has written articles in our major newspapers like this one.

https://www.svd.se/sveriges-asylpolitik-maste-laggas-om

So I assumed the stats are correct since I haven't seen them corrected.

I must admit when the total numbers of convictions are so low they don't seem too meaningful. Probably better to just look at all crime or all violent crime.