So you advertise for these nebulous forces allegedly creating "no go zones" because?

wat

It's readable. Why advertise these alleged "no- go zones"?

Who is advertising? They are what they are. Its the police in Sweden that has gone out and targeted the areas as " no go zones".

What the media or politicians then does is mainly irrelevant. Right wing says its worse than it is and left wing says that everything is nice and dandy when the truth is somewhere in between. The only benefit from it is that there will be a discussion on why this problem exist and how to solve it.

Earlier you werent allowed to say that there are problems in these areas because racism. All we did was throw obscene amounts of moneys on these areas in the hope of things getting better but it has become worse.

Who is advertising "no-go zones" and blaming the residents of such areas is a great question, which is why I asked about it.

Are you just an innocent bystander asking questions because racists do blame the people who's neighborhoods they stigmatize in manner like you have in the form of 'sharing the news'.

So why would you who looks like a racist gain the trust required to help the people in the 'ghetto zones' who are the targets of racists? You look like a problem. So talk.

As i said before i live in and work with youth from so called "no go zones". Ive also never said its the residents fault other than its a huge culture collision where the residents choose to be parted from Swedish culture. Very few of the residents take part in any criminal behavior but they are responsible for the divide that comes between those areas and the rest of Sweden.

Many immigrants have succeeded and live good lifes in Sweden fully integrated but still keeping their roots. A common denominator in the "no go zones" is that being Swedish is considered bad. Church and family is the important things and nothing trumps that. That doesnt work well in a socialist country where the state is the daddy and we all work together to make the state fat so he can provide for us.

OK, I'll bite because you do seem a bit more balanced than Marnazi.

What church is it that doesn't discourage its followers from robbing and harassing people?

It stems from family being everything. If you rob someone that isnt part of the church yes they will condone it but nothing more. If you do something to a member of the church the whole family gets shamed. Therefor if you do something you do it to "outsiders". This fosters a culture where its seen more ok to commit acts upon people not part of the church "group".

Its the same issue with marriage and relationships. Girls are not allowed to date and in the few cases where its not so harsh its def not allowed to date someone from another culture. The boys live a similar reality where its ok to date to practice before the marriage within the culture. All about doing the "correct" thing so you dont shame the family.

This is from my experience with the large christian group that lives in the "no go zone" in my city. Its the same patriarchal system that many are afraid of when it comes to islam. This is where i say that its not about religion but culture.

Where do these people come from, and what 'church' do they belong to?

They are assyrian/syriacs. Most are orthodox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyri...iacs_in_Sweden

Someones saying something I dont like......... better call him a racist

Immigrants coming to Sweden think its a bad thing to be Swedish.

Makes perfect sense. Bring more!

Actually most Syrians are muslim.

cite.

Presuming you buy/believe that one opinion and perspective. Maybe?

If iv read your word salad wrong then I do apologize.

Your implied failure to think about that is yourself to apologize to, not I. Thanks though.

Dear lord.

Comprehension trolling and racism trolling are tells you have put off. No sign you attempt understanding. Why would any lord help you?

****ing incredible


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Christianity

Tribalism is a huge part of the problem in many communities that migrated from the 3rd world at one point or another (along with arhcaic social/moral rules and religion/superstition, obv). Arab muslims look down on other muslims and have no issue treating them as literal slaves, just look at migrant ''workers'' in the middle east rich countries. In Eastern Europe, gypsies (who came from India hundreds of years ago) still organize themselves in clans/tribes , have a designated ''chief'' and have a go at each other quite often for the most trivial reasons.

As westerners we tend to think of the world in terms on countries/nations but we need to remember this was never the case for most of the planet, it's always been tribes and tribal unions and it still applies to this day for the most part. Invading a land and then drawing a few straight lines on a map doesn't turn it into a country or a nation, if anything it creates far more problems (african genocides, India/Pakistan, sunnis/shias in Iraq etc). The idea that you can build a european style state is as ridiculous as trying to export 21st century western values to places where most people are more than happy to live in a medieval time capsule.

tell me more!

He's talking about the specific immigrants he's working with.

Also syrians are from Syria and most are indeed muslim. Syriacs/assyrians are mostly christian and they dont really have a land but have been spread out out over different regions in the middle east.