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Old 06-07-2017, 03:46 PM   #676
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Eastern Europe makes for an interesting comparison, I agree. As well as not suffering from fundamentalist terrorism, it's also in a somewhat depressed state having been largely occupied by Nazis, Communists or both, and many of its people have emigrated to Western Europe. I have family in one such country and despite the problems with small scale terrorist attacks I'd much, much rather live here.
Agreed, but that opens a whole new discussion, I would rather concentrate on the pros and cons of mass non western immigration, a very real reality for us in Sweden.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:58 PM   #677
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Those second generation immigrants from non western countries you have such hope for are the cause of our non-go zones and count for a large percentage of terrorist attacks committed in Europe.

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Agreed, but that opens a whole new discussion, I would rather concentrate on the pros and cons of mass non western immigration, a very real reality for us in Sweden.
no, you wouldn't.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:59 PM   #678
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Marn, your Honorary Aryan status is confirmed, right?
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:01 PM   #679
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Those second generation immigrants from non western countries you have such hope for are the cause of our non-go zones and count for a large percentage of terrorist attacks committed in Europe.
I do know there's no area of the UK I couldn't go to because of antipathy to British people from immigrants because I lived for a decade in one of the most Muslim parts of the country.

I don't know whether Sweden really has no-go zones. but if it does why do you think they exist?
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:17 PM   #680
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I do know there's no area of the UK I couldn't go to because of antipathy to British people from immigrants because I lived for a decade in one of the most Muslim parts of the country.

I don't know whether Sweden really has no-go zones. but if it does why do you think they exist?
Do I sense a change in tone? That is welcome, I will try to return the favor.

We define no-go zones differently depending on who is doing the talking and what we want to communicate.

Our police force has designated a growing number of areas as 'challenged areas'. In practice this means that there is a significant chance of police getting attacked when entering these areas and attempting an arrest, hence several police cars are required. Ambulances and even fire brigades are frequently vandalized and sometimes even burned in these areas. We have about 10x the number of cars burned per year compared to Norway and Finland, these are concentrated to the no-go zones.

So no matter how we officially define these areas, they are a challenge to law and order and integration and it is a growing problem.
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:23 PM   #681
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So you're talking about no-go areas for the Police and other emergency services?

I know of some very deprived parts of the UK that would qualify under that definition, but it would be because of the situation and behaviour of native Britons, not immigrants.

Also, we've had this same conversation before, not that long ago.
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:31 PM   #682
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I know of some very deprived parts of the UK that would qualify under that definition, but it would be because of the situation and behaviour of native Britons, not immigrants.
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Native Britons try to keep the police out and attack emergency services in their area? Do you have anything to back this up? In Sweden it is a problem entirely concentrated to immigrant areas.
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:37 PM   #683
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Native Britons try to keep the police out and attack emergency services in their area? Do you have anything to back this up? In Sweden it is a problem entirely concentrated to immigrant areas.
Daily Record is a Scottish paper

Remember that some of these areas are extremely deprived and you might be shocked if you saw them.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:46 PM   #684
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Native Britons try to keep the police out and attack emergency services in their area?
They used to on the Marquess Estate in Islington when I lived near there in the Nineties. Police eventually lost patience after a couple of officers were beaten up and then they blitzed the place and arrested whole families, which kind of put a stop to that.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:49 PM   #685
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They used to on the Marquess Estate in Islington when I lived near there in the Nineties. Police eventually lost patience after a couple of officers were beaten up and then they blitzed the place and arrested whole families, which kind of put a stop to that.
Good, Swedish police should take notes instead of letting the problem grow.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:54 PM   #686
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Dude that is the lie we have been told to accept this mass immigration from the third world. The majority of our immigration is precisely this kind of immigration when including their family reunions which is basically economically equivalent.

Had the politicians told us that we have to sacrifice some of our wealth to help these people in our country and compared that to the alternative of foreign aid to war zones and their neighboring countries, then we wouldn't have been nearly as positive to this development. People feel betrayed by all the lies told and the tides are turning in public opinion. Not sure if it is too little too late though.

Those second generation immigrants from non western countries you have such hope for are the cause of our non-go zones and count for a large percentage of terrorist attacks committed in Europe.

Eastern Europe seems to be spared from such problems, I wonder why?
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:58 PM   #687
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Native Britons try to keep the police out and attack emergency services in their area? Do you have anything to back this up? In Sweden it is a problem entirely concentrated to immigrant areas.
I was actually about to mention that before Jalfrazi posted that link is that there are no go zones in Scotland and plenty of them are mostly white areas.

If no go zones are places you shouldnt go after dark then Glasgow has plenty of them and its not Muslim Migrants that you should be worried about.
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Old 06-08-2017, 02:33 AM   #688
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Have your minds changed yet about the travel ban?
mongidig forgets - but the Washington Post remembers - the original travel ban was supposed to last 120 days, intentionally meant to be a temporary measure until more extreme vetting could be put in place.

The original travel ban was put in place 129 days ago. That means that, without any interference, it would have expired 9 days ago. The Trump administration, in enacting the original ban, then, claims that enough time has now passed for it to no longer be necessary!

Some members of the administration said the courts hurt that process:

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David Lapan, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security, told USA Today that the department was not crafting new vetting procedures because the courts had halted the executive order directing them to do so.
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Lawyers and other experts dispute this characterization of the court order. “I do not think the injunction included not being able to plan for vetting,” said Leon Fresco, an immigration lawyer at Holland & Knight. “What was enjoined was the part of the order that prevented letting in individuals.”

Andrew Rudalevige, a political science professor at Bowdoin, agreed that the White House could have just started vetting procedures while the travel ban was paused: “There was nothing stopping him.”
And fortunately for us all, the moron in chief contradicted his own DHS spokesman:

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This week, Trump tweeted that “extreme vetting” procedures have already been developed, a statement deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed. (Last week, the Trump administration rolled out a new questionnaire for visa applicants, which asks for social media usernames, among other things.)
So, there we go! No more travel ban needed Thanks for bringing this up agian, mongidig!
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:23 AM   #689
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Poland sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it?
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:34 AM   #690
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Poland sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it?
Ah, yes, this map is quite illustrative as long as you ignore...

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If the yellow dots on that map are supposed to be terror attacks then it's lol bad. It's nonsense
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That one in the North Sea looks a bit dodgy.
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Gotta admit, I can't remember those 3 terror attacks that happened just north of Edinburgh on the East Coast of Scotland
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I remember the Glasgow airport incident, and then I don't think there was anything before the Lockerbie bombing.

Are any of the splodges IRA?
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Also, Poland is a member of the EU and the Schengen Area, so immigration policy is not that strict.
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It's also rather interesting when you do a reverse image search to see who has been posting it. I got 13 results

#Proudamerican
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Welcome to P7 LadyAce, with posts like this you're gonna fit right in!
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