Chez, post #560 was allowed to stand, but my reply to that post wasn't, and you deleted it. Either delete both or delete none. Deleting my response is unfair to me. I'll report it and we can see what you do about it.

You missed the point. Being angry is fine. I'm angry at racists and other morons who make the world worse.

juan is mad that people don't blindly accept his racist "everything is genetic" theory. That theory is really important to him.

lol

It appears we literally can't speak to each other. I think that's due to the problems on your end with political correctness, or whatever you call it.

Know that all of this, in society, will not end well. Your side can't win, Chez, and I think this experiment of yours proves it.

Be well.

Or else it's problems on your end with very low levels of literacy.

How can you not know what 'heartening' means, and even if you don't you should be able to work it out without any effort?

Jeez.

I'm a bit stumped as to where the confusion is. There's no PC involved in my response so it's not that. I'll have one more try.

I linked about the increase in hate crimes which is a very bad thing (do I have to say 'imo'?) but mostly the response has been decent people uniting in support for each other and in opposition to the people who commit/support these atrocities - this is a very good response (imo)

I haven't seen any increase in fear or reluctance to go about our daily lives as per normal.

lolwil. You still don't get it.

i said the data is rock solid. for some reason after describing a bunch of black men in prison you switched it to rock hard
ok you googled incarceration rates as i suggested. im here to hold your hand. now try to articulate an actual point to describe its impact on disparity of single family homes. you can do it snowflake. im proud of you for googling incarceration rates, but keep going. make a complete thought. youre clearly interested in the truth, so go ahead and finish your thought
cite

what would posters here like to see?

im glad you care about policing social media for hate speech. what do you propose be done to prevent these repeated terrorist attacks that show no indication of ending?

how many more terrorist attacks (directly related to immigration policy) will it take for the left to take some responsibility and consider they might have made a mistake?

those are 3 questions. if youre going to imply what you did at the top of your post then you should probably be able to articulate an actual pov, especially as a mod

are you interested in discussion or are you just going to virtue signal and only focus on convenient explanations?

I know you think you are smarter than the average racist, but you keep making the same mistake. Single parent homes do not mean that the father is "abandoning" his kids. That's your racial prejudice making that leap.

I don't think I need help from someone who is having a tough time with apostrophes.

It should be obvious why a father or mother being in prison leads to single-parent homes. Maybe you didn't think that through?

But, again, you are the one complaining that your super serious point about the NBA was ignored. That's how ****ing backwards your thinking is. In this very thread you've argued that everyone must consider that because there are more black people in the NBA we must conclude that genetics is a cause of single parents homes in the African American community. But we can't consider poverty, current or past discrimination, or the fact that blacks are disproportionately imprisoned.

Not only that, but you are having a snit because the NBA Hangtime Theory of Nonexistent Racism isn't being taken seriously. You couldn't be more absurd.

Manchester 'One Love' concert on at the moment, till 2200 BST.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/evfwhn/live/c8cdgw

Lol, I've seen it all. 13ball is blaming single parenthood on RACISM.

LOLLLL

Did you mean to quote a different post? Because that's not what that post was saying. Not anywhere close.

Your arguing tactics are getting worse.

Serious question : was racism towards blacks worse in 1965 than today, and were blacks poorer than today? What has happened to single motherhood in the black community since then?

I mean, I know you want to blame whites and the system, but what you're saying is absurd to any thinking person.

The official data isn't race-specific further back than 1980, but between 1980 and 2015 the percentage of births to unmarried women has grown more slowly for black Americans (+14%) than whites (+20%) and the mean among all groups (+22%). In other words, while the percentage of births to unmarried women has been rising among all Americans for decades, the gap between blacks and whites has narrowed slightly.

The rate among black families is still much higher than other groups, but then it was almost certainly much higher than every other group in 1960 as well. Obviously, the trends in this data are not tied to racism, since the trend is the same for every group, roughly. That probably also limits how well mass incarceration explains the data. I'd say it's obvious the single biggest factor is simply changing social acceptance of divorce and single parent homes. On the other hand, historical racism is probably important to the racial gap, despite the fact that gap has narrowed. Mostly, the significance is in the role of racism in socio-economic stratification between groups.

Data from here:

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43667.pdf
https://www.childtrends.org/indicato...married-women/

Sounds like mumbo jumbo to me.

Here's some really shocking numbers.

Median income single mother : 26k. Married couple : 80k.

Wow. Unbelievable. WOW. I thought it was like 40k vs 65k or something. It's way, way worse than I thought. Jesus Christ.

Random point but the phrase 'marriage reduces poverty' doesn't have tilt me.

I mean, agree completely with the general point that a culture emphasising stability and steadiness in your career and finances before getting married and having kids is going to be hugely beneficial in terms of alleviating poverty, but the wording of it is just way off.

Still, I suppose we shouldn't really be surprised at the stats.

I think "don't have children if you aren't married" is a better way of putting it than "marriage reduces poverty".

The stats kind of make me want to vomit. I knew they were bad I just didn't realize it was that bad.

That graph is impressive. How does juan's NBA Jam: Eugenics Edition theory explain what's going on there?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

On June 4th, 78 years ago today, the MS St. Louis, a ship carrying refugees from Europe, was denied entry to the United States. 254 of the 907 refugees denied entry were murdered in the Holocaust.

Benefits? We are talking enormous costs.
May by we should be shouldering these costs, but let us not pretend there is an economic gain.

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