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I do not believe human men should have sex with animals I do not believe human men should have sex with animals

08-30-2014 , 05:57 PM
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It is advised that you give close supervision and keep them calm. You do not want a larger female getting scared and panicky to swing the male around by his penis, as it will get bruised and may make a repeat breeding failure.
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08-30-2014 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
But this implies you are sure in the case of male animals doing the penetrating. Why? Just because that wildebeest is acting enthusiastic doesn't make it so.

The reason we tend to frown on bestiality (I hope) is that non-human animals are inherently incapable of giving informed consent under any circumstances.

Somebody who's drunk, or in a coma, or developmentally disabled may act like they're enjoying what you're doing to them, but that doesn't make it ok.

(Given recent developments, I feel like this may be some kind of experiment to see what reactions you get towards extreme/provocative posting, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.)
sort of. it's also sort of a break from the more serious discussion. and it's something i've actually thought about so it seemed like a good time to bring it up.
08-30-2014 , 05:59 PM
May make?
08-30-2014 , 06:03 PM
Now *this* is the kind of crazy **** that ought to be in UNCHAINED. A+ thread.
08-30-2014 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Had a guy come into the er missing some of his intestines because a German Shepard locked in.


Just thought id share that.
ewwwwwwwwww
08-30-2014 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Now *this* is the kind of crazy **** that ought to be in UNCHAINED. A+ thread.
Expect I think spank wouldn't allow it since it's not related enough to politics.

Yet, at least.
08-30-2014 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Had a guy come into the er missing some of his intestines because a German Shepard locked in.


Just thought id share that.
What about the dog? Was he okay afterwards?
08-30-2014 , 06:09 PM
Probably went to a vet if anything.
08-30-2014 , 06:16 PM
In another thread I lamented that I feared nothing was ever accomplished in political discussions. Even if correct about the other stuff, this is a clear exception. Gizmo may have just prevented someone reading this actual physical harm from happening, unaware of the locking" problem.
08-30-2014 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
What about the dog? Was he okay afterwards?
We don't treat dogs here
08-30-2014 , 06:19 PM
:/
08-30-2014 , 06:21 PM
Ikestoys, whom I seldom agree with, greatly simplified my life and reduced my daily stress levels by way of discussing the topic of genetically modified food, complete with sources and cites, in politics main
08-30-2014 , 06:30 PM
This is actually a really good question, because it needs us to define 2 things. a) the relation of animals to humans and b) the notion of consent.

a) There are several concepts you may want to choose from what differentiates humans from animals:
1. Humans are something inherently different from animals
1.1 Religion (Humans are in another category as animals because it is in the bible)
1.2 Some mental capacity or potential mental capacity
2. Capability to feel pain
3. Being a living thing edit; with some natural inborn "wants".
4. Being a part of an ecosystem, so nothing

b) Consent being:
1. Yes I want to xy happen in written or spoken form
2. Yes by concludent behaviour
(And there is more, I just try to limit my thought process).

So you have to agree on combinations of a and b.

Last edited by swissmiss; 08-30-2014 at 06:43 PM. Reason: Added some explanation
08-30-2014 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
We don't treat dogs here
Speciesist
08-30-2014 , 06:46 PM
Anatomy is different even!
08-30-2014 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
In another thread I lamented that I feared nothing was ever accomplished in political discussions. Even if correct about the other stuff, this is a clear exception. Gizmo may have just prevented someone reading this actual physical harm from happening, unaware of the locking" problem.
I'm not so convinced that nothing ever happens. For starters, consider that most threads (and most political arguments) have more spectators than participants. There is an audience, and they are presumably being swayed one way or another even if the opposing arguers aren't, and even if the audience themselves aren't aware of it.

As an example, missiledog/shame trolly is often ridiculed for almost anything he posts. Not many people engage him seriously, and he doesn't really help his cause when he gets fixated on weird crap (like LirvA) or molests the font color palette. However, he is relentless in pushing certain topics, and if you pay attention over the course of a few years you notice that there are quite a few areas where his influence has become a normalized part of forum discussion without most people remembering he was the source.
08-30-2014 , 08:36 PM
I feel my Youtube of Chimpstare face-f***ing a frog belongs ITT.
08-30-2014 , 08:37 PM
Almost mentioned it earlier tbh
08-30-2014 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Considering all the heinous torturous **** that humans do to millions of animals every day to satiate our entirely unnecessary desire for meat it does seem somewhat odd to draw the moral line at ****ing them.
wtf how would we avoid meat deficiency if we don't eat meat?
08-30-2014 , 10:10 PM
I draw the line at hugs and kisses.
08-30-2014 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
WOW SOO SEXIST OBJECTIFYING WIMMINZ WOOKIE ALLOW THIS WTF!!1!!1!!
your post if the op wasnt red
08-31-2014 , 06:07 AM
it should all be illegal
08-31-2014 , 11:10 AM
And if a human male gets penetrated by a monkey, then he can give the little fellow the same treatment then?

Didn't know I had all those political ideas in my head.
08-31-2014 , 11:19 AM
If virtually everybody shares the same idea, there won't be much politics. Change the thread title to "Re: I do not believe human men should have sex with other men", then you get politics.
08-31-2014 , 11:19 AM
Don't be ridiculous.

      
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