Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
How specifically is Donald Trump a better president than Barack Obama? How specifically is Donald Trump a better president than Barack Obama?

05-27-2017 , 04:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongidig
This was outside the White House?

You know for sure Ergogan ordered the attack?

There is nothing conclusive about this video. It appears to me they were trying to protect their leader.

It looks like a job well done too me.

You didn't cite your claims.

Protect Erdogan from what exactly?
05-27-2017 , 05:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by guller
When in actuality, Obama didn't saddle himself with these regulations at all. They were purposely over-reaching to elicit the planned emotional response that they got when they were rejected, and it worked.

You think telling coal mining companies they cannot dump their waste into streams and rivers is over reaching?



Quote:
Originally Posted by guller
Coal may be slowing down, but is slowing down because of market forces. Natural gas burning is presently cheaper (due to fracking), so we will move to that for a while until something else becomes even cheaper. Perhaps that will be solar or wind, but perhaps there will be other innovation as well. Maybe someone develops a complete carbon capture/scrubber system that makes coal viable again, who knows. One thing I do know is that having the government pick winners and losers (solar right now) will create a market distortion that will hinder natural innovation.

See, I think this let the market decide stuff is absolute nonsense, because I see how well the market works for the poor, minorities, the environment, etc.

Waste water injection from fracking is causing earthquakes all over the south, this is causing damage to many people's residencies. Why should oil and gas companies be able to reap record profits while causing earthquakes which damages other people's property with absolutely zero repercussions?

The thing about the government doing things like subsidizing solar, or implementing MPG regulations for passenger cars, is because the beautiful free market leaves lots of bodies in its wake, one of which that is being killed is our planet. If all we care about is exploiting the Earth's natural resources for every dollar that we can, then we're certainly going to destroy our Earth prematurely. As it is right now, we can change direction and save our planet. This is why things like prohibiting mining companies from dumping waste into streams and rivers is so important. Do you disagree?
05-27-2017 , 05:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongidig
I'll admit I have watched this video and others several times. I do enjoy it.

If people are gonna protest in a highly secure area they should expect to get beat up. This is how it's done. Did you see how quickly the crowd dispersed?

If you try to block a road you may get run over.

If you committ a crime you may get shot.

Why don't you people have a protest against terrorists, or criminals? You're always on the wrong side of history.

Question: Do you believe in the right to assemble, associate, and petition the government for redress of reverences? Do you not thing political protest is constitutionally protected free speech?
05-27-2017 , 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xnbomb
The fact that anyone thinks that we can make an accurate assessment of Obama's presidency right now is dumb. Thinking you can do the same with Trump while it's still going on is asinine. It's almost as bad as taking one policy issue of two different presidents and basing their value solely on that. O, wait...

I'm looking at specific issues, rather than making vague assertions. What I'm saying is, how in this specific area, is Donald Trump a better president than Obama. I'm not saying based on one issue one president is better or worse, you're misreading.

I guess I'm asinine, because I think we can make a pretty decent assessment of both Obama's, and Trump's presidencies.
05-27-2017 , 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Question: Do you believe in the right to assemble, associate, and petition the government for redress of reverences? Do you not thing political protest is constitutionally protected free speech?
It's difficult to have a conversation with someone who writes the word "question" before asking a question. Who does that? Normal people don't talk like that. Is that how you talk in real life?

Plus you started this thread with "Ok ok"

Just talk like a normal person and you'll probably never have to worry about being body slammed.
05-27-2017 , 05:02 PM
I don't even know what your post means. I'll just take it as giving up.
05-29-2017 , 03:20 AM
Trump might be more honest than Obama, comparing the rhetoric their administrations. Obama, like every recent president, has defined the national interest in idealism which is blatantly misleading to the point of cynicism. Trump speaks more bluntly when interpreting the national interest (though he is also a massive hypocrite) in terms of real politics. I think that is less manipulative and gives the electorate a better sense of what is happening and why. Fewer will be confused by Trump's actions, more likely to see them for what they are. Obama would go on about human rights and the dangers of prejudice before drone striking an American born citizen because he was of Arab origin. People don't know what to make of that, like Obama's persona and rhetoric gave him a cloak of cognitive dissonance that shielded him from too much criticism. Trump is easier to fight and perhaps therefore a quicker path to something better than either democrats or republicans.
05-29-2017 , 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Subterranean2
not black
+1

Also, you should link your 1000th post in this thread
05-30-2017 , 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
How specifically is Donald Trump a better president than Barack Obama?
He tilts liberals bigly. Yuuuge amounts. Just the best. That's far more important to the base than any policy specifics. He delivers the tears of the enemy.
05-30-2017 , 01:59 PM
Quote:
How specifically is Donald Trump a better president than Barack Obama?
Very specifically. The most specifically of any president in history. He's better so specifically you won't even believe, I got to tell you.
05-30-2017 , 02:53 PM
He doesn't make a red line and then back down when it's crossed.
05-30-2017 , 03:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
He doesn't make a red line and then back down when it's crossed.
He's a man who says things, does things, and doesn't afraid of anything.
05-30-2017 , 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Very specifically. The most specifically of any president in history. He's better so specifically you won't even believe, I got to tell you.
Look, specifics are a big, big problem, but we can specify. That I will tell you. We're specifying, ok? And I understand what you're saying, I hear it all the time. People call me and say "Are we going to specify?" Thats what they are asking me, it's unbelievable. The specifics are in big trouble, that I can tell you, because we are going to specify. You know, I don't get as much credit for this as I should - And I mean this - Years ago - YEARS ago! I said 'We need specifications!' And now its out! I couldn't have been more right, folks. Oh, and we'll get the best - I know the best people, who are gonna specify. And then it's gonna be so specific, let me tell you, and people are gonna come from all around and go oooh! and they're going to say that it's the most specific thing they've ever seen - and I'm telling you right now, the other specifiers are going to be paying the bill - I'm gonna make em. You know the guys who make specifications, they love me. They called me and said you know we have a problem. I said I know we have a problem. They said you know what, we love you, we're going to help you fix this problem. It's a TREMENDOUS problem. We need specifications and so much more. It's been eight years, people. I'm telling you we're gonna make America great again.
05-30-2017 , 07:20 PM
Is there a Trump speech generator somewhere or did you make that yourself? Solid 9/10.
05-30-2017 , 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Is there a Trump speech generator somewhere or did you make that yourself? Solid 9/10.
It's mostly plagiarized from various sources.
05-30-2017 , 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
He doesn't make a red line and then back down when it's crossed.
Read that again.
05-31-2017 , 12:08 AM
He nominated Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.

He approved the Keystone and DAPL pipelines.

His executive order halting refugees from countries that cannot properly be vet people before entering our country.

He's doing his best to repeal Obamacare. (Jobs allow people to buy healthcare, not the other way around).

He does weigh job creation against environmental concerns - unlike Obama. Environmentalism may have done good things, but like everything else the Left have touch, it's become extremism.

He does make Leftist snowflakes cry and exposes their extremist ideologies. (Or do stupid **** like post decapitated heads, exposing their double standards. Unforced error in the extreme).

He is to be taken seriously, not literally (which is much better than Obama's rhetoric, as he was neither).

He's not a socialist/Marxist. He never sat in the church pews of Reverend Wright.

He doesn't believe in things like "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism"

Ooooh, the list goes on.

Let's face it, people voted for Obama to be a part of a movement. Eight years of that mess and it was time for a change.

Last edited by JiggyMac; 05-31-2017 at 12:09 AM. Reason: Typo
06-06-2017 , 10:59 AM
If you're really keen on your tandoori chicken you'd go for Trump.

      
m