I think you are missing the point. Nothing I wrote was about you, per say. I was trying to flesh out, with your help, what standard is required to label someone a racist in light of things they say short of a written oath to an established white supremacist movement.

Either you are missing the point or being evasive. I tried to use a very simple and topical case, that of Trump. Do you think Trump is a racist? Is there any amount of overlap between what Trump says and the radical opinions of white supremacists, short of a pledge of allegiance, which would label Trump a racist? These are pretty simple, unassuming questions.

If your talking about people IRL who are part of the content then it's fine.

It's not ok if it's about posters. We have the !!! threads for that.

Deuces,

Take your thesis and discussion and questions to your own thread. Particularly when you were unable to answer the questions posed by the topic of this thread.

... wilfucious say

If the guy that punched the neo-nazi was black, does that not constitute self defense? I mean, what's his face had mused about how great it'd be if we could exterminate all the negros.

I believe the term is post-nazi

Google "wall of meat" to read about the biker gangs who have volunteered to stand between Trump and protestors. Hitler had similar volunteer forces when he first came to power, also focusing on beating up protestors.

I did address the topic of the thread, answering not only some questions you posed but some statements you made. The statements of yours are not absolute truths (i.e. the derision of the guy who punched the nazi). They are part of the topic as well, even if you want to narrow the topic strictly to your OP.

Here I am directly answering your question from the OP. I basically say that the acceptable level of violence against a fascist is proportional to the level of fascism in authority, and why fascism violates the social contract to justify violence against it. You can't fault me for addressing also the topic of violence justification when the default position is that extra judicial aggressive violence is pretty much never normally justified.

Here I am checking your moral credentials re your assertion in your OP that the sucker puncher was in the wrong:

So I have addressed your question and some apparent corollaries in these and other posts.

At this point I will ask another question you can skip. Why does the alt right constantly infuse the meta discussion with obviously bogus accusations? Have you said anything of substance to address your own questions? You've said the puncher was cowardly and acting illegally. Ok but what do you say the counter charge that those considerations are dwarfed by the moral imperative to keep neo nazis in check? What about rebuttal of the reasons pointed out as to why the sucker punch was not cowardly?

A sucker punch is always cowardly.

But you'd be ok with just punching a nazi?

I'm not a violent person. But if someone feels sufficiently motivated to do it, do it like a man face to face.

(and be prepared to face the consequences)

That's just an assertion, not an argument.

In this context, while I don't agree, I will grant that the sucker punch in question is cowardly. So what? I don't think that is the most important consideration among many aspects of the event. Maybe it would be "cowardly" to sniper shoot Hitler on the same principle (which is what exactly anyway? that anything less than a straight up face-to-face brawl is cowardly?) but in that case other considerations would dwarf the level of courage required (as is the case here).

Maybe it's rude to wear a mask in public so the puncher is also rude. So what? He punched a nazi. He's a hero for a day, and I don't care if it was illegal or not risky enough for some or whatever.

And really, anyone who goes out in public to promote mass human extermination should probably keep their guard up. It's not like puncher went up and knocked the ice cream man upside the head. We are talking about a neo nazi. When you are calling for mass murder you're pretty in the ring at that point. There is such a legal concept as fighting words, and I think "Remember when your ancestors were killed in a genocide over trumped up bull****? Well that was a good thing!" certainly qualifies as fighting words if anything does.

Really, these neo nazis goons should be treated just like terrorists. Someone like our deplorable here who got 1/100th of what he deserves should be treated no different than an Islamic radical in the U.S. preaching openly about killing infidels.

No.

If a man with a gun broke into my house with my two children inside and I was fortunate enough to be able to sucker punch the bastard and put an end to his idea, that isn't cowardly.

I give two ****s on this spencer dude that was decked.

Completely different scenario. That's not a sucker punch, it's self-defense.

I officially challenge Richard Spencer to a fight, man to Nazi. MMA style or Marquis of Queensbury, Nazi's choice.

Lol

They always omit the end of the quote:

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it, though don't come crying when you catch an ass whipping behind saying whatever stupid **** you were just dying to say."

They only beat up about 6 people and they all deserved it. One of the losers spit in the face of a biker. This is not advised. He had his earings ripped out. I would love to see all these scum get their butts kicked. If the Bikers wanted to, they could have created all kinds of carnage.

I think people like Maddona and Ashlie Judd and those who caused violence should be deported.

Bikers for Trump is a legitamate political group soon to be 500,000 strong.

Bikers are mostly a bunch of fat old alcoholics, though mostly they carry weapons.

A .38 is a better option, seriously.

LOL @ U...

#Warlocks
#Pagans
#Mongols
#HellsAngels
#Bandidos

FYP... and its not even close

Maybe you should move to a place where this sort of belief doesn't violate every constitutional principle that country was founded on, because you sure as **** don't sound very American.

Monodigit, like all trump worshippers, hate freedom and America. It's why they want to destroy our country. Like the taliban, mono and his ilk hate us for our freedoms.

Everybody notice that these snowflakes never say anything bad about the real villians? You never see someone from the right act like these actresses and protesters. How about the nuts who have been kicked off planes for shouting down Trump supporters. You hate the nazis but someone who thinks about blowing up the white house is ok.

You support the criminals, protesters, terrorists etc.

And you wonder why you lost!

Read the post above.