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07-13-2015 , 09:17 PM
See you tomorrow.
07-13-2015 , 09:31 PM
Well whatever people think of that, can't say he didn't get about six fair warnings.
07-13-2015 , 09:42 PM
Flexing your epeen again hey Kerowo? Your tiny pecker must be so hard right now.
07-13-2015 , 10:17 PM
spank gonna be off his nut tomorrow, or stoic in defeat?
07-13-2015 , 10:25 PM
Wondered how long it would take for kerowo to find his balls. They must have slipped and fallen into the couch cushions or something.
07-13-2015 , 10:26 PM
I'll just go ahead and say I don't think spank should ever be banned for his style of bad posting, but I would approve of giving him a series of temp-bans of increasing length.
07-13-2015 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
I'll just go ahead and say I don't think spank should ever be banned for his style of bad posting, but I would approve of giving him a series of temp-bans of increasing length.
This seems ridiculous to me. Why should a volunteer mod have to keep doing work because a grown ass man can't manage to act in a reasonable manner?
07-14-2015 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
This seems ridiculous to me. Why should a volunteer mod have to keep doing work because a grown ass man can't manage to act in a reasonable manner?
They don't have to, it's a voluntary position.

Repeated temp bans are fairly normal in P why are they ridiculous in PU?
07-14-2015 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
They don't have to, it's a voluntary position.

Repeated temp bans are fairly normal in P why are they ridiculous in PU?
I'm on the record that I think repeated temp bans in P are ridiculous as well.
07-14-2015 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
They don't have to, it's a voluntary position.
Is this like when you think you've posted some gotcha, like yesterday when you pointed out that I had responded to spank earlier that day? The point was a grown up should be able to act in a reasonable manner and spank seems to fail consistently.

Modding is a voluntary position but if a forum is to be moderated there will be an overhead and whoever accepts the position will have to deal with hard work high maintenance posters and whether it's voluntary or not I don't see why they should have to.
07-14-2015 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I'm on the record that I think repeated temp bans in P are ridiculous as well.
Fair enough.

But if being unable to control yourself only gets a temp ban in P then there's a reasonable case it shouldn't be treated harsher in PU.
07-14-2015 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
The point was a grown up should be able to act in a reasonable manner and spank seems to fail consistently.
Like failing to act in a reasonable manner isn't part of the norm round these parts?

How many temp bans has Fly had? what about letsgambool? Do I have to carry water for them as well by arguing they shouldn't be permabanned.


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Modding is a voluntary position but if a forum is to be moderated there will be an overhead and whoever accepts the position will have to deal with hard work high maintenance posters and whether it's voluntary or not I don't see why they should have to.
They don't have to but if Mat wants (or Mat supports a forum that wants) the forum to allow these posters then volunteering for the position means dealing with them.

I don't know if that's what Mat wants but he has indicated a minimum of modding for PU that suggest he may not want people permabanned. Then again he may not give a hoot.
07-14-2015 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Like failing to act in a reasonable manner isn't part of the norm round these parts?

How many temp bans has Fly had? what about letsgambool? Do I have to carry water for them as well by arguing they shouldn't be permabanned.
There are degrees of unreasonableness, posting the same **** 3 ways consecutively in the same thread is a whole different type of unreasonable, being a dick in every correspondence then declaring a victory against everyone is a different type of unreasonableness. Constantly badgering other posters / mods for days over a decision is a different type of unreasonableness.

Like fine you consider this no different from what other posters do, I do personally, hence I think your judgement sucks. Like spanks.

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Originally Posted by chezlaw
They don't have to but if Mat wants (or Mat supports a forum that wants) the forum to allow these posters then volunteering for the position means dealing with them.

I don't know if that's what Mat wants but he has indicated a minimum of modding for PU that suggest he may not want people permabanned. Then again he may not give a hoot.
In modding spank a second time Mat clearly demonstrated he didn't give a hoot, he's as much as confirmed this telling people that PU exists so he has to deal with less **** in P.
07-14-2015 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
There are degrees of unreasonableness, posting the same **** 3 ways consecutively in the same thread is a whole different type of unreasonable, being a dick in every correspondence then declaring a victory against everyone is a different type of unreasonableness. Constantly badgering other posters / mods for days over a decision is a different type of unreasonableness.

Like fine you consider this no different from what other posters do, I do personally, hence I think your judgement sucks. Like spanks.
Of course there are differences - if you think I think differently than you're judgement really sucks. You may recall this conversation is about whether repeated temp bans are ridiculous. Sounds like you don't think they are ridiculous, it's more a question of when it's appropriate

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In modding spank a second time Mat clearly demonstrated he didn't give a hoot, he's as much as confirmed this telling people that PU exists so he has to deal with less **** in P.
Could well be. Other times he demonstrates more of an interest. I'm not making any claim about what Mat wants, just that whoever volunteers to mod has to deal with what Mat wants.
07-14-2015 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Of course there are differences - if you think I think differently than you're judgement really sucks. You may recall this conversation is about whether repeated temp bans are ridiculous. Sounds like you don't think they are ridiculous, it's more a question of when it's appropriate


Could well be. Other times he demonstrates more of an interest. I'm not making any claim about what Mat wants, just that whoever volunteers to mod has to deal with what Mat wants.
You know the rules, chez. spanky should have stayed in his containment thread.
07-14-2015 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Of course there are differences - if you think I think differently than you're judgement really sucks. You may recall this conversation is about whether repeated temp bans are ridiculous. Sounds like you don't think they are ridiculous, it's more a question of when it's appropriate.
I think repeated temp bans are, I think posters who repeatedly ignore moderator requests should be exiled from that forum. I am not a fan of bans but I do think mods are entitled to exile those posters who create the most work for them.

However this is not why I responded to you, this is the second pretty obvious and somewhat pointless gotcha you've posted, interestingly both concerning spank and I think you should swerve doing the really obvious stuff because it looks like you're the idiot's cavalry.

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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Could well be. Other times he demonstrates more of an interest. I'm not making any claim about what Mat wants, just that whoever volunteers to mod has to deal with what Mat wants.
Him demonstrating more of an interest seems to correspond to him having a drink.
07-14-2015 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
You know the rules, chez. spanky should have stayed in his containment thread.
You lost the vote. Have you forgotten so soon.
07-14-2015 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
I think repeated temp bans are, I think posters who repeatedly ignore moderator requests should be exiled from that forum. I am not a fan of bans but I do think mods are entitled to exile those posters who create the most work for them.
Mods are entitled to do whatever Mat doesn't object to.

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However this is not why I responded to you, this is the second pretty obvious and somewhat pointless gotcha you've posted, interestingly both concerning spank and I think you should swerve doing the really obvious stuff because it looks like you're the idiot's cavalry.
You really are going native. the subject comes up regarding Spank, my personal views are the rules and discussion of them should be poster independent. I have no problem with people disagreeing with that view.

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Him demonstrating more of an interest seems to correspond to him having a drink.
Not sure this support your case that he doesn't give a hoot.
07-14-2015 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Mods are entitled to do whatever Mat doesn't object to.
What is the point of this, I've explained why I think mods are entitled to exile, talking about what mods should do and you've just decided to make it all depend on what doesn't piss Mat off.

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Originally Posted by chezlaw
You really are going native. the subject comes up regarding Spank, my personal views are the rules and discussion of them should be poster independent.
What does going native mean chezlaw? I posted a response to spank yesterday, he then accused me of having spank angst and I asked him when was the last time I replied to him. You respond by pointing to the first post in the exchange which as a gotcha is pretty poor and makes me think I was wrong to consider you the idiot's cavalry rather than just another idiot.
07-14-2015 , 08:06 AM
Kerowo knew how Spank would respond to his thread being deleted. He created this situation and then bans him for protesting Kerowos bad modding.


Mat why are you letting this go on?
07-14-2015 , 08:13 AM
Mat responds to repeated pms Johny. Take it up there.
07-14-2015 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
What is the point of this, I've explained why I think mods are entitled to exile, talking about what mods should do and you've just decided to make it all depend on what doesn't piss Mat off.
I'm not sure what your point is. There are constraints on mods. The main one is what Mat wants - they are volunteering in a forum he runs.

The other point was JJ saying he thinks repeated temp bans are ridiculous - I think I may agree with him slightly more than you do but either way they are a part of the culture.


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What does going native mean chezlaw? I posted a response to spank yesterday, he then accused me of having spank angst and I asked him when was the last time I replied to him. You respond by pointing to the first post in the exchange which as a gotcha is pretty poor and makes me think I was wrong to consider you the idiot's cavalry rather than just another idiot.
All this 'gotcha' nonsense. What do you imagine I think I got? You'll be regressing to P/PU catch phrases like 'white-knighting' and 'carrying water' next.
07-14-2015 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
Kerowo knew how Spank would respond to his thread being deleted. He created this situation and then bans him for protesting Kerowos bad modding.


Mat why are you letting this go on?
Alternatively spank knew what would happen to his no content thread because of what happened to yours. He posted the thread knowing it would get closed or deleted and thus give him a reason to feel aggrieved and a reason to complain.
07-14-2015 , 08:49 AM
When you PM'd the Matt, what did they say?
07-14-2015 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
Alternatively spank knew what would happen to his no content thread because of what happened to yours. He posted the thread knowing it would get closed or deleted and thus give him a reason to feel aggrieved and a reason to complain.
Even if thats the case, Spank broke no rules and his thread should not have been deleted and he shouldn't have received a temp ban.

      
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