What gun law restrictions do you support would have had an impact on Sandy Hook, Columbine, or Virginia tech?

I've listed mine. But again, just because a proposed restriction doesn't immediately solve a problem doesn't mean it isn't worth imposing.

Well, one problem (among many) is that some supporters of gun rights deny the correlations between homicide/suicide and gun ownership--or they invent rules that countries can't be compared because America is a special snowflake country.

So you admit your argument has no real basis.

Got it.

GTFO woman! How many times do you need to be told that you are not at all wanted here... can you not feel that negative energy? Jesus Mary & Joseph, you confused and broken mind

Sorry, kerolols confusion is contagious



Wot? Crowder has some pretty legit arguments against gun control.

Top 5 gun myths debunked (10 min vid)...



Wrecking Vox's/leftist gun control propaganda/deception(20 min vid)...



I know, just some dumb comedian

NQ - timeout. Please dont post in this thread or on this topic in any other thread for 24 hours.

You've managaed to make a personal attack and throw in some Sandy hook denial. Also just posting vidoes of other peoples 'arguments' do not count as content.

Who cares about gun control with an age of 3-d printing and future weapons tech right around the corner? No proposal in the US has any chance of functionally doing **** before then. People are always going to be able to main and murder each other at will- civilization works because they almost always don't, not because they can't.

Ah. People might break them, so let's just have no laws at all. Great logic!

solid post, well put. Also need to guard our own culture a little in various non-gun ways.

Whose culture?

Had no idea such a thing existed.

After googling the 2 ppl he cited, jfc you are correct the troofers are legit scum. Just completely sickening.

The ability to 3D print a reliable gun is still a long way off afaict.

So because 3D printing is a thing, we should not try to keep guns from the mentally ill? Or not try to implement universal background checks?

Not arguing against that, even though I think it's a fairly marginal benefit in the current US. The last 30 posts or whatever were about trying to actually eliminate guns.

You've completely missed the point.

What value is there to this conversation of you saying he's missed the point without saying what the point actually is?

Target shooting is fun.

Home defense.

Concealed carry, which is nice if you have a business that requires you to make night deposits, or if you work late sometimes in a big city.

It's also the best guess that littering the streets of Tokyo with millions of free Uzis would probably cause an uptick of 1 extra murder a year.

I've pretty much come full circle on guns, to where I know believe in the old redneck defenses of guns like "Guns don't kill people, X kills people". What's wrong with America is the culture. The maturation of the capitalist aspects have seen massive mental illness. There is a virtually unreported epidemic of mental illness, as if the whole mental state spectrum has shifted unhealthily.

As is often pointed out, there is a lot of gun ownership in Canada while they don't have anything approaching the problems we have. This is typically pointed out in a defense of guns, but I point it out to expose the real problem- American culture. Our way of life breeds stress, frustration, resentment, just about every negative attitude or feeling there is. You ****ing people are nuts.

Handguns are the problem. They're designed for hunting people

Personally i think its individual paranoia overriding basic common sense as to how to make yourself safer. Your clint eastwood fantasy will probably end in disaster and the odds of being faced with an armed criminal skyrocket if a gun costs as much as a bottle of whiskey

Since theres already millions of guns in circulation the solution is complicated but logically speaking it doesnt make sense to have a disaster of policies because the alternative is difficult

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree all of this.

There are multiple reasons. They are fun, they bring peace of mind, they bring a sense of safety. They also raise the chances of death astronomically, whether by suicide, accident, whatever. Also, the likelihood of actually using the gun in a successful self-defense scenario is almost laughable.

That being said, none of the above matters. It is a right for us as Americans to own them and do with them what we see fit (within the law).

Even if it's true that others wouldn't kill even if they had guns, it still makes sense to remove the guns from the hands of those who would

I don't understand why we can't just make it a mandatory sentence for anyone found with an illegal gun, or a convicted felon is found in possession of a gun. If the above happens send them away for 10-20 years. Makes me sick that our court systems are so F'd that one of the above mentioned can get out in 6 months. Make the penalty a hell of a lot stricter for people found with an illegal firearm (not registered, stolen, convicted felon). The problem is not responsible gun owners.

+1

Solid post. Not that I think the US should apply the UK's standards, but fwiw over here you can own shotguns and rifles for sport/hunting, it's just pretty difficult. All anyone can really ask for is just take a step or two closer to that.