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Old 04-14-2017, 09:29 AM   #26
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:34 AM   #27
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I am always surprised there is not more hate.
You do realize that most of these people would have died anyway because they would have become suicide bombers and would have faught till the death. Meanwhile, how many hundreds of thousands of people on our side were spared?
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:52 AM   #28
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Yes thats why I said I was dubious.

And I know it doesnt fit in with your narrative but alot of his most ardent supporters during the election did seem pissed at him for the bombing of Syria.
They change their tune on a daily (almost hourly) basis. Soon, Coulter will be back slurping on that tiny orange dick.
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:26 AM   #29
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You do realize that most of these people would have died anyway because they would have become suicide bombers and would have faught till the death. Meanwhile, how many hundreds of thousands of people on our side were spared?
Trump shouldn't attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Should have saved his "powder" for another (and more important) day!
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:43 AM   #30
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Trump shouldn't attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Should have saved his "powder" for another (and more important) day!
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It looks like he's just prematurely blowing his wad... again.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:22 PM   #31
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You do realize that most of these people would have died anyway because they would have become suicide bombers and would have faught till the death. Meanwhile, how many hundreds of thousands of people on our side were spared?
No that seems unlikely. Most of ISIS are not suicide bombers id guess. Do you have a cite that shows they are mostly suicide bombers?

Also im not on your side. Based on your posts on the first amendment you are also a threat to democracy.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:25 PM   #32
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Trump shouldn't attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Should have saved his "powder" for another (and more important) day!
I agree about Syria.

This bomb was in Afghanistan though and it looks like it hit a cave away from any settlements according to the bbc.

I actually dont think Trump did a whole lot wrong here unless I am missing something.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:42 PM   #33
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Let the Arab League take care of Afghanistan. Why are these rich Arab countries not paying the US for the tremendous cost of such an attack?
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:49 PM   #34
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Seeing the left just unravel and exaggerate and whine with all their self righteousness daily has just been awesome. All these self important people who just can't believe we're not doing what they say. They are literally so butt hurt their opinions are irrelevant



It's hilarious
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:49 PM   #35
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Do people have no concept of the level of bombing across the middle east over the last 15 years? And the level of bombing in 2016 alone?

Idiots are going 'Dang Trump done Dropped DA MOAB!!ohnoo!!!'.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:52 PM   #36
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Let the Arab League take care of Afghanistan. Why are these rich Arab countries not paying the US for the tremendous cost of such an attack?
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:54 PM   #37
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Let the Arab League take care of Afghanistan. Why are these rich Arab countries not paying the US for the tremendous cost of such an attack?
Lol. I dunno man! It is almost as if the last 40, 30, and 15 years and of course the past 8 years under Obama didn't exist! Maybe reading a book or two will alleviate such questions?
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:55 PM   #38
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Seeing the left just unravel and exaggerate and whine with all their self righteousness daily has just been awesome. All these self important people who just can't believe we're not doing what they say. They are literally so butt hurt their opinions are irrelevant

It's hilarious
Your country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before.
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Old 04-14-2017, 12:58 PM   #39
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Lol. I dunno man! It is almost as if the last 40, 30, and 15 years and of course the past 8 years under Obama didn't exist! Maybe reading a book or two will alleviate such questions?
You should stop talking, stay out of Afghanistan and other countries that hate you, rebuild your own country and make it strong and great again.
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:08 PM   #40
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:25 PM   #41
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Do people have no concept of the level of bombing across the middle east over the last 15 years? And the level of bombing in 2016 alone?
It didn't work before, but i'm sure you think it will work this time.

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Idiots are going "Dang Trump done Dropped DA MOAB! That solves all the problems in Afghanistan!"
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:31 PM   #42
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Nope, I think nothing is going to really solve the cluster**** that was created by the western nations in the Middle East. And certainly not dropping one fat bomb on a remote cave. I recommend the book Blowback by Chalmers Johnson and the film The Power of Nightmares by Adam Curtis.

Yeah idiots are also saying that I am sure, but that doesn't change the fact that anyone being extra outraged by Da MOAB! because Rachel Maddow told them to is an uninformed idiot.
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How about those of us that were against middle east involvement since the 90's. Can we not be caught up in your look over there crap. Nope...
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:58 PM   #44
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It didn't work before, but i'm sure you think it will work this time.



Idiots are going "Dang Trump done Dropped DA MOAB! That solves all the problems in Afghanistan!"
You got any actual quotes for anyone saying that?

Obviously the US intervention in the ME has been a disaster. They have completely destabilized the region and caused a chain reaction that has killed countless of people.

But in the grand scheme of things Trump bombing a cave filled with ISIS terrorists is massively down the list of things that people should be worried about given they have already destabilized the region and given birth to loads of fanatical Islamists.

The damage has been done, all Trump has done (in this case) is kill a bunch of fanatical terrorists who are oppressing the local populace.

Obviously bombing Syria was a dip**** move but this one imo I dont see what he has done wrong here.
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Old 04-14-2017, 02:07 PM   #45
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How about those of us that were against middle east involvement since the 90's. Can we not be caught up in your look over there crap. Nope...
Dont you think the US has a moral obligation to help fight ISIS given they destabilized the area and helped create them in the first place? Or do you just leave all the people

Were you as outraged at Obamas droning program?
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:22 PM   #46
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mongo, what will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict?
It's hard to quantify the effect of a President actually drawing a line as opposed to just speaking metaphorically about one.

What things should you just politicize and half heartedly condemn and in what situations do you actually show a back bone?

I guess chemical weapon usage doesn't cross that line for you.

How about Boko Haram abducting almost 300 school children and the response is a f#cking hashtag?

Any type of military response is increasingly becoming more and more unpopular. It should be questioned, but sometimes no options are great and you simply have to do what you think is right.
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:45 PM   #47
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You should stay the hell out of Syria, the "rebels" are just as bad as the current regime.

What will you get for your lives and billions? Zero.

Edit: Furthermore, as you continue to send your assets to foreigners you will become a 3rd world country. You must stop

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Old 04-15-2017, 02:16 AM   #48
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Dont you think the US has a moral obligation to help fight ISIS given they destabilized the area and helped create them in the first place? Or do you just leave all the people
Sure. Im an isolationist at heart but think we do have morale obligations for the countries we attacked. Im opend to allowing refugees and giving massive humanitarian aid to them.

But bombing has been going on for over a decade now in Afghanistan and none of our leaders have had anything resembling and out of the situation as far as i can tell. How many more decades of bombing until we can leave morally? If we cant leave until a stable Afghanistan. I think this is a permanent gig since none of our leaders seem to be able to come up with a Marshall like plan or defeat the insurgents. Same goes for Iraq pretty much... although i could see more hope for stability there.

Im not sure continued fighting for peace (those words... fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity-Carlin) is more moral then pulling out at this point.

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Were you as outraged at Obamas droning program?
Im more outraged at him for the lousy job of leaving Iraq and not implementing a good plan for leaving Afghanistan.

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Old 04-15-2017, 02:35 AM   #49
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Plus the whole equivalency thing is bs. Trump is an idiot and not at the same level as other presidents in my lifetime. Democrat or republican. His incompetence alone means i would want him to drop less bombs even if i liked other presidents dropping them.
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Sure. Im an isolationist at heart but think we do have morale obligations for the countries we attacked. Im opend to allowing refugees and giving massive humanitarian aid to them.

But bombing has been going on for over a decade now in Afghanistan and none of our leaders have had anything resembling and out of the situation as far as i can tell. How many more decades of bombing until we can leave morally? If we cant leave until a stable Afghanistan. I think this is a permanent gig since none of our leaders seem to be able to come up with a Marshall like plan or defeat the insurgents. Same goes for Iraq pretty much... although i could see more hope for stability there.

Im not sure continued fighting for peace (those words... fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity-Carlin) is more moral then pulling out at this point.


Im more outraged at him for the lousy job of leaving Iraq and not implementing a good plan for leaving Afghanistan.
Im not one for wanting foreign intervention either but we have created a mess and left the people of the middle east being ruled by Islamic Tyrants who burn people alive in cage and chuck homosexuals off of roofs.

We have a responsibility and obligation to help them eradicate ISIS. This would be different if the target was in a town somewhere and there would be collateral damage. The outrage in this thread was over the top and knee jerk in a way that it wouldnt have been if Obama had done the same thing.

There is plenty to criticize Trump for and I mean plenty , blowing up 90 psychotic Islamists is not one of them.

I wasnt comparing the two leader more just the outrage I feel would not have been equal had it have been Obama. I mean look at the first post in the thread , you would have thought that dropping bombs was a purely a Rebublican thing , Obamas hands are just as dirty as Trumps at this moment.

Im sure if you go on a right leaning board you would see the exact same partisanship to be fair.

The situation in Syria is different not going to defend him there.
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