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Originally Posted by well named
I think your first paragraph misconstrues some of the debate in the other thread, though. The argument wasn't about whether racism is motivated biologically or sociologically. It wasn't about what causes people to be racist, but about explanations for racial disparities in various statistics, mostly in criminal justice but also in wealth, income, education, and etc. In one sense I did argue that geography plays a role in that (via the discussion of concentration of neighborhood poverty), but I think it's a slightly different topic than what you are discussing.
I'm going to have to kind of phone it in here but I would like to point out that when you say racial disparities are caused by concentrated neighborhood poverty. I see what you see I see gentrified and suburban neighborhoods being treated better than generational poor neighborhoods both in the more unfortunate appalachain white neighborhoods and in the more poverty stricken african american neighborhoods. I see a familial trap that is hard to get out of. poor environments dragging people down. but I think it goes much deeper than that.
The countries with the most nobel prize winners:
"World Facts
Nobel Prize Winners By Country
United States has the most noble prize winners with 353 followed by the UK with 125 and Germany with 105.
Nobel Prize Winners By Country
Marie Curie, a Polish-born and naturalized-French physicist and chemist was the first multiple recipient of the Noble Prize
The Nobel Prize is the most distinguished and coveted global honour. First awarded in 1901, it has recognized individuals and groups from over 30 countries or territories. In the 104 years of its existence, the Nobel Prize has been awarded to close to 800 laureates. The Nobel Laureates can be groups or individuals. There have even been multiple time nominees and awards. The highest number of recognitions has been given to the International Committee of the Red Cross. It has received the Peace prize three times in history.
The Nobel Prize was created through the final will of Alfred Nobel, an accomplished Swedish inventor. Although Nobel’s will was read after his death in 1895, it was highly controversial and took six years before the awards came into being. The Nobel Prize recognizes significant contributions to the advancement of various aspects of culture, science and academics. In Alfred Nobel’s will, he dictated that the interest from his estate fund will be awarded to those recognized in Physics, Chemistry, Literature, Medicine and Peace. In 1968, a further category of Economics was introduced after the Central Bank of Sweden made a donation to the Nobel Foundation.
The first multiple recipient of the Nobel Prize was Marie Curie, a Polish-born and naturalized-French physicist and chemist famous for her work on radiation. Curie’s awards were also unique because she received the prizes in two different categories. In 1903, Marie Curie alongside her husband and another physicist were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics. This was in recognition of their achievements in studying radioactive behaviour of elements and successfully isolating isotopes. She repeated the feat in 1911 by winning the prize in Chemistry after isolating pure radium. The Curie family in total has had five Nobel Laurates.
The United States of America leads the ranking of Nobel Prize winners by country. From 1901 to 2015, the United States has had 257 winners. The majority of these prizes have been in the Nobel Prize for Physics. It is commonly thought that the access to improving technology has led to this accomplishment in the US. As a matter of fact, the only category of Nobel Prizes in which the North American country doesn’t lead is the Nobel Prize for Literature. This has France in the lead with 11 Laureates.
The Nobel Peace Prize is usually seen as the most coveted for both individuals and organizations. It also has a reputation of throwing surprises in the annual event. In the early years up to the Second World War, the Nobel Peace Prize was always awarded to diplomatic mediators and anti-war activists. However, as the 20th Century progressed, the type of nominee and Laureates diversified to works done in other humanitarian ventures. An example of a distinctive Nobel Peace Laureate is Muhammad Yunus of Bangladesh. He believes that economically empowering rural women will deliver the Third World country from the throes of poverty.
The most famous Nobel Peace Prize Laureate was Nelson Mandela, the first president of post-apartheid South Africa. He jointly received the 1993 Peace award with Frederik de Klerk for their efforts in ending apartheid in South Africa. The anti-apartheid efforts in South Africa had earlier seen Reverend Desmond Tutu being awarded the same recognition in 1984.
Nobel Prize Winners By Country
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Rank Country Nobel Prizes
1 United States 353
2 United Kingdom 125
3 Germany 105
4 France 61
5 Sweden 30
6 Switzerland 25
7 Japan 24
8 Canada 23
9 Russia 23
10 Austria 21
11 Italy 20"
source:
http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/t...e-winners.html
ALL OF these countries are oced countries and first world developed countries. Which countries don't have a lot of nobel prizes . countries like mauritania, the republic of congo, madagascar.
There's a very clear correlation between development,hdi and wealth
AND who wins nobel prizes. note this is an argument routinely perverted by the alt right.
But what I see is darker than this. When i was a kid I was routinely uninvited to social gatherings and parties due to my temperament and forced to stay in my room and had things taken away from me and i was not made stronger for it; rather everyone else was happy and went to college and i became mal-adjusted. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger is a lie from epople who have never truely suffered.
So why doesn't mauritania and niger get any nobel prizes? The human geography of wealth traps them into a dark room. The inability to access resources is debilitating to populations of people the same way a cold room was debilitating to me. They were forced to focus on a lower level in the heirarchy of needs but more importantly were never given the chance to have their ideas flourish. either that is true or people form less developed countries are dumber because of x.
keep in mind if you give someone only water and rice and lock them away forever they become very dumb indeed. they never learn how to speak or see or talk even.
Last edited by spaceman Bryce; 06-13-2017 at 06:30 PM.