proff peter, just to get you back on track i'll highlight the op and where things went
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
As someone who was recently banned for sexism by claiming the classrooms on campuses are teaching material in contradiction with mainstream science and using unscientific methodology, I think it would be a good idea to discuss gender studies. Women and trans studies are basically political nonsense making scientific claims. They are left operate because any opposition gets shouted down as a bigot or phobe. This also applies to ethnic studies
I will provide citation but its breakfast time now
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Find an empirical research article from a women's studies journal (e.g. Sex Roles). Illustrate how the chosen methodology and design are incorrectly aligned with the research questions and hypotheses. Or show us how the statistical analyses are incorrectly conducted based on the hypotheses or data.
Then show us how this article is indicative of the field of women's studies as a whole, and how that differs significantly from general mainstream scientific journals. If you conduct a meta-analysis to show inflated effect sizes in women's studies journals compared to mainstream journals, then extra points.
im talking about what is being taught on campuses. you want to shift the discussion to suit yourself. as we will see, you aren't even familiar with what is being taught at a large number of respected universities or the consequences
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Psychology and its related fields (psychiatry, sociology, etc) is so full of fraud and poorly conducted research that it's become almost useless to try to parse out the good studies. Perhaps this is what you're referring to, Juan? However, to say that women's studies is particularly bad needs some evidence. I have found that their journals are fairly rigorous, albeit biased in a way that only certain groups try to publish there. This does not necessarily mean that their findings are corrupted.
ok so would you believe that womens and trans studies are as bad or worse? i never compared the two. for example womens studies don't need to contradict mainstream psychology, it contradicts biology. on top of that, what do you think is more biased, scientists conducting science (with biases and flaws) or womens and trans studies with political and personal biases conducting studies and cherry picking supporting nonsense as course material?
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i think its a clever move to state at the beginning how and what you demand out of me. steer the conversation in the direction you want. unfortunately this is my thread. its an effective tactic in being "right" but its not an effective way to discover truth or areas of contradiction. im not going to search through journals if i can listen to professors or "experts" on womens studies and see the contradiction with actual science that appears to be sound. if you don't find the science i believe to be accurate then you are free to express how and why
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Just as i thought. You have no clue how to back up your empty statements. You likely don't even understand what i was asking for. Oh well, i should have known, given your inability to do so in any previous threads.
maybe steer the conversation towards what you want in your own thread. this isnt the medical journal thread. this is about what is being taught in womens and gender classes on many respected campuses
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
priceless is having your undivided attention. thanks
as i said its a nice tactic to shift the arguement to suit yourself but thats not happening here. i am talking about what is being taught by professors at universities. information that gets transfered to the students/sjw's. not journals. we will look at how unscientific their claims are and also look at how they contradict actual science and research
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Ok, but how do they contradict actual science? What exactly are they teaching that's incorrect?
More importantly, why do you care? Are transgenders hiding under your bed and scaring you?
again, these things have consequences. thats why i care. i got banned for being critical and people are being silenced for their own self interest because challenging these professors doesnt end well with the viscous pc crowd. its a problem
what happens when nobody challenges the wage gap nonsense? well we hear obama and clinton parroting it for political gain. its a problem if the political strategists think its a valuable message, right? if its a "problem" that effects half the population then surely its worth fixing, right? i'm sure you can see the problem with bad ideas going unchallenged now right? fixing a fake problem affecting half the population that now feels slighted. yeah thats worth caring about probably
maybe if you haven't thought about it yet, think through the consequences of falsely telling people that things like gender and identity are just a social construct. think it through. what road can or will this go down? what are the consequences? do these scientific claims hold up to any sort of scrutiny? why arent they being challenged?
you have people teaching and arming students with nonsense that leads to political activism. the video i posted shows a study that demonstrates that freedom results in greater gender disparity. if you are being taught the opposite and your goal is to remove disparity politically, can you see the problem yet? you are now educating students that women are being slighted and screwed in places they aren't. the consequences are going to be political action to "fix" these things. this is real
a starting point to all of this is they are after free speech to the point of compelled speech and the opposition displaying any sort of sanity has their career at risk. imagine a world where the number of identities people have can and has continued to grow. imagine if they keep inventing words and demand you use them which is enforced by law. well, thats happening. its real. think through the consequences and think outside psychology when looking for contradiction
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Originally Posted by well named
From the youtube, I'd guess the point is supposed to be that Gender Studies courses deny that there are important biological differences between people determined by sex. What is not in the video is any evidence that Gender Studies courses (as a general rule) deny this. It's not even clear that the woman in the video denies this in general, she mostly seems to be denying that biological differences are meaningful in discussions about social policy, although she seems to deny a biological basis for gendered differences in aggression.
I don't have any first-hand experience of what is taught in Gender Studies programs, and since they are (I believe) mostly inter-disciplinary, it might vary a lot by program, i.e some might be more humanities-based and others lean more on sociology or anthropology.
studies show the opposite effect of what gender studies will tell you. that is because gender studies are full of fallacy. gender is a social construct, the patriarchy, etc. its all made up nonsense that contradicts human nature and what we see in the animal kingdom. if you pay even a little attention to their messages you should start to grasp the absurdity
as you know i believe our physiology affects our behavior. i have already pointed this out in very simple ways showing behavior differences between gender and age. hormone levels. there are actual scientific studies back this up which i have cited in the trump thread. for example i posted a video talking about studies showing that testosterone levels and physical strength even have a statistically relevant impact on your political views and your likelihood to end up in jail or be violent. womens studies make a habit of dismissing things as social construct. sounds familiar right?
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