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02-05-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
... yeah. wil, every time you and FoldN post, another Nazi gets punched. You guys are radicalizing the normal decent people into antifa by being gleefully racist apologists for fascism at every turn...
Yeah, peeps are saying that for every book M.Yiannopoulos sells, three folks join an Antifa group. This fool's promotional book selling strategy is making anti-fascism huge and mainstream. At this point, I gotta figure that M.Yiannopoulos is a secret Antifa-er himself, hilariously punking Breitbart News and the rest of the MSM.

And... he's coming back to Cal !!!1!

Knowing what happened last time he visited, how much agency does the Cal Young Republican Club have for inviting him back? I'm guessing about as much agency as the UW Young Republican Club has been saddled with after a man was shot in the gut. Again, kudos to the UCD Young Republican Club for putting the safety of their campus community first.
02-05-2017 , 12:34 PM
I know I keep saying "the world has gone crazy" but I think the above few posts are good evidence it has.

You people have lost your ****ing minds.
02-05-2017 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You think racists are being created?
Where do you think racists come from? Born like that? Or do racists not exist, period?
02-05-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I think all civilized countries are built upon the values of showing compassion. I don't think it's effecient to apply it to all scenarios. For Instance, I believe we are engaged in a war with terrorists. I don't think these values should be applied to those whos ideology is so far removed from a humane way of living. I feel rules of engagement and limits to what our military personnel are governed by prevent us from playing on a level battle field.

This is were I was going with the quotes above.
Its really too interesting a topic for here.

Its partly a morals/values issue but the more obviously political argument is about what we do being partly responsible for what others do.
02-05-2017 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Europa
Where do you think racists come from? Born like that? Or do racists not exist, period?
Mostly raised that way. There may be some that can be swayed by reading about it, but not many. Surely not as dangerous as banning ideas.
02-05-2017 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You honestly believe that being exposed to bad ideas makes people believe in them? Really? Seriously?

That's not a normal view. People don't start reading stormfront-like websites and become white supremacists. That just isn't normal, it doesn't make logical sense. You sound like the people who are concerned about the amount of porn on the internet that is available literally everywhere. Did it turn us into a society of rapists or sexual predators? Of course not.

Look at what you've turned into, fly. A fear-mongering, blubbering mess who can't look at things logically. You think racists are being created?

Lol.
Uh, where else do they come from?
02-05-2017 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
No I don't but the reality is that when push comes to shove even you and me are on the same side and cooperate. You may deny it but we do it anyway. You may not like me but it wont matter beyond some shouting
Is wil a racist, chez?
02-05-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Mostly raised that way. There may be some that can be swayed by reading about it, but not many. Surely not as dangerous as banning ideas.
The kinds in the milo mould are like 95% young white males with a larger online social presence than real life social presence. This isn't a fluke that reddit, 4chan, and even places like this become the places for alt right views. These "lone wolfs" we talk about in the media aren't lone wolf's, they just don't have a ton of irl contacts.
02-05-2017 , 12:57 PM
If you acknowledge that people get racist by being raised that way, it's obvious that racists get created later, too. Many of us later turn out different than our parents. Are SJWs being raised that way or created?
02-05-2017 , 01:00 PM


Read this whole tweet thing. Anyone who has been on the internet shouldn't need this explained.

wil is aching for that moment when Spencer or Milo says
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Pride in one's own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them
02-05-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You honestly believe that being exposed to bad ideas makes people believe in them? Really? Seriously?

That's not a normal view. People don't start reading stormfront-like websites and become white supremacists. That just isn't normal, it doesn't make logical sense. You sound like the people who are concerned about the amount of porn on the internet that is available literally everywhere. Did it turn us into a society of rapists or sexual predators? Of course not.

Look at what you've turned into, fly. A fear-mongering, blubbering mess who can't look at things logically. You think racists are being created?

Lol.
You are literally an idiot, where do you think racists come from?
02-05-2017 , 01:03 PM
Wil thinks there's a link between watching normal porn and rape? That's...entirely consistent with his views on women.
02-05-2017 , 01:05 PM
I think if you are raised in a racist or sjw environment, there is a good chance you will become one or the other. I think specific events can certainly shift ones views. I think both labels can be fluid and judged within a continuum. Both labels are also conceived based on the perspective of the labeler.
02-05-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's just a comic book movie, bro. You don't have to psycho-analyze it. That gay Teletubby didn't make dudes start sucking dick, you know.
I'm a party pooper. Anyway, I grew up Star Trek which is obv commie propaganda, and wound-up liking the Ferengi. Someday I'll have the lobes for business.
02-05-2017 , 01:10 PM
Racism is a learned behavior and can be unlearned, that's why calling out racists as racists is important and why Chez is a bad person.
02-05-2017 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You are literally an idiot, where do you think racists come from?
Posts like this make me question your intelligence yet again. Racism is mostly a taught thing, where children are raised to hold certain beliefs. Most people, once they start gathering more life experience, grow out of it. It definitely happens during the college years, and as they get older and start travelling out of their small geographic areas.

Humans, of course, are complicated creatures. Some can be swayed into anything. The spectrum can be wide, just as areas like human sexuality, which is extremely complicated.

This idea that people can be talked into being racists doesn't make sense. I could read stormfront or any other virulent racist websites and not become a racist, mostly due to my age and life experiences. You can't talk me into racism at this point in my life. I think probably every single person participating in these threads can relate to that. The issue you morons seem to have is that falling on a side of an argument defines if the person is a racist or not.

For example, you not be racist and disagree with affirmative action. For people on your side, if I actually made good points and swayed someone from believing in affirmative action to them not supporting it anymore, you would only care about the end result, one less person supporting a policy in which you believe is morally correct. Obviously your side doesn't differentiate between the reasons behind a position, only the position.

It doesn't matter if you think Milo is a racist. He happens to fall on many sides where the racists do also. Anyone who falls on the side of not wanting Islam here is essentially a racist in your mind. The reasons behind it do not matter, all you care about is their overall position.

This, my friends, is why you people are looked at as morons and why people despise you so much. You MAKE people choose sides.
02-05-2017 , 01:26 PM
It should be noted that Wil is not only wrong by actual studies, but simple anecdotal evidence of *ever* having been on the internet and to places like this, reddit, 4chan, stormfront and all the alt right safe spaces show him to be demonstrably wrong. Do you think the chan sites had white nationalist propaganda 10 years ago? Or, did they introduce it after it became popular because a group of socially awkward white males adopted this viewpoint?

The case he has against people becoming racist out of learning it is he says he is smart enough to not fall for racist rhetoric. This, at a time when fake news is a giant problem. So, we have a majority of the USA falling for fake news of Hillary Clinton being a murderer, the actual president tweeting racist memes, but you think regular people don't read racist stuff and believe it? loooooool willlllllllllllllll
02-05-2017 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I think if you are raised in a racist or sjw environment, there is a good chance you will become one or the other. I think specific events can certainly shift ones views. I think both labels can be fluid and judged within a continuum. Both labels are also conceived based on the perspective of the labeler.
Describe what it would be like to "be raised in a sjw environment."
02-05-2017 , 01:36 PM
It's like he doesn't understand how advertising works at all.
02-05-2017 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
It should be noted that Wil is not only wrong by actual studies, but simple anecdotal evidence of *ever* having been on the internet and to places like this, reddit, 4chan, stormfront and all the alt right safe spaces show him to be demonstrably wrong. Do you think the chan sites had white nationalist propaganda 10 years ago? Or, did they introduce it after it became popular because a group of socially awkward white males adopted this viewpoint?
This is idiocy. The SJW movement didn't exist 10 years ago you crackhead. The rise of it caused the rise of the anti-sjws.

How could you be so dumb as to understand this simple concept?

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The case he has against people becoming racist out of learning it is he says he is smart enough to not fall for racist rhetoric. This, at a time when fake news is a giant problem. So, we have a majority of the USA falling for fake news of Hillary Clinton being a murderer, the actual president tweeting racist memes, but you think regular people don't read racist stuff and believe it? loooooool willlllllllllllllll
This is the complete opposite of what actually occurred. The fake news was on YOUR side, not Trumps! Literally every single news paper in the country told you Trump was a racist/misogynist and Hillary was going to win easily.

lolololololollllllloooooollll wtf is wrong with you?!
02-05-2017 , 01:46 PM
So you think SJWs just popped up with no reason and thus were born the RWNJ anti-SJWs?
02-05-2017 , 01:47 PM
Co-sign Wil's last post.
02-05-2017 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You honestly believe that being exposed to bad ideas makes people believe in them? Really? Seriously?

That's not a normal view. People don't start reading stormfront-like websites and become white supremacists. That just isn't normal, it doesn't make logical sense. .
Some (eg wil318466) listened to TS's version of those sites and were converted/corrupted, wil.

So yes, it does happen. You know, propaganda does actually work.
02-05-2017 , 01:56 PM
So, you believe the SJW is an entirely new movement that is born from after the Obama election, of people who were previously not politically active nor beholden to any other groups or movements beforehand Wil?
02-05-2017 , 01:58 PM
SJW-ism can be traced exactly with the rise of social media.

      
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