There is nothing shocking about those types of numbers from intellectually honest people.

Of course, people will claim racism, as that is more important than women actually being raped.

Sweden has the third highest rate of rape according to the chart in the below wiki article. The countries listed above don't even have reliable rape statistics hence they are not listed at all.

Good thing that we are importing so many young men from such rape free countries with sophisticated views like these on women's sexuality. But yeah of course, culture has nothing to do with it, right? It is all about socio-economic factors, believing otherwise wouldn't be PC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_s...cs#Afghanistan

Jesus Christ

Would be interesting to compare demographics to the fact that REPORTED rape cases in the US have fallen 600% in the last nearly forty years.

Obviously we have got the rape cultures out of the United States and we could use that power to save the rest of the world. The percentage reduction is likely significantly higher because in 1980 rapes were much less likely to be reported in the US.

We are sitting on the key to solving rape and are just ignoring it.

that guy is a ****.

Govt is blocking it?

Why don't you share the study instead of just a graphic. I've got some methodology questions that you can't answer because A) LDO you haven't read the research, and B) you wouldn't understand it even if you tried to read it because you've never taken any relevant course work.

Yes, the Swedish government is blocking a similar study as done by the Danish government. Do you want to read the study in Danish, I certainly don't! I do however trust their methodology, why wouldn't I trust a state sponsored study?

They studied the effects of socio-economic factors, these effects turned out to account for only a minor part of the observed differences between ethnicities, anyhow none of this matters for the chart I posted since it is based on raw data.

Anyhow, humor me, I want to hear your methodology questions.

Why is it blocked?

Who the **** knows? My guess would be.



I guess you missed the article I linked earlier.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...e-immigration/

Hahaha. That guy just without *any* irony, linked to Brietbart.
Most "news" on Brietbart is fake, made to rile up dumb white people. It is a white nationalist site. Stop presenting that as a source.
http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/conten.../18/bjc.azt005
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opini...ticle30019623/

The idea that governments and media are covering up minority crime is TOTALLY NORMAL guys, lots of liberals believe that.

Are you really lecturing me about Swedish domestic issues? I have read that globwandmail article, Mat linked to it earlier, it is total crap. I am not using Breibart as a source, I am linking it because it is the only English site that I know of writing about these issues. Instead you should be questioning your Liberal news sources for not bringing up an issue making the news in every major newspaper in Sweden and debated about on national TV, so the validity of the story is not in question.

I will read the oxfordjournals article later and get back to you with a longer response when I have time.

So obvious that the response was going to be "that well sourced article is wrong" with zero actual evidence of such to back you up, while again not apologizing for linking a white nationalist hate site. Such a joke. They're the only site talking about it because they're a hate site that makes stuff up to rile up idiots. It seems to work, unfortunately.

Name me one falsehood in the globe article. Source it. We both know you can't.

I want to add that the same study took into account socio-economic factors, which accounted for like 30% of the difference. Studies from Denmark, Finland and Norway show the same thing.

The globeandmail article is pretty much a huge lie, I used to believe in it too until I actually looked at the data myself.


my reply to Sklansky:


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=244

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=259

Good job just hand waving away the exact causation of what is actually happening with one anecdote. Glad you are aware of every report of sexual assault/rape in your country, for a second I thought you had no idea what you were talking about and were easily fooled into believing garbage like Brietbart. But now that I know you have insider knowledge on every rape case in your country and have unequivocally stated that no one gets charged the way the law intends, I yield to you. Glad we have you on the case.

Here's one tip for you: the only reason that brietbart are the only people writing about something is because that something is not true and advances resentment towards non white male causes. It is a hate site that puts out hateful articles that people like you fall for.

Why do I need to know about individual rape cases, what are you talking about!? Where is the anecdote?

We did a study on ethnicity and crime in 1996 and 2005, both of them show that crime rates are highly correlated with ethnicity even after correcting for socio-economic factors. More recent studies from Denmark, Finland and Norway come to the same conclusion.

Why do you think our government is saying no to a new study?

I can post excerpts from these studies later.

Mark, what changed in 2005? You don't seem to understand the *biggest* data point here. It's almost as if you're being intentionally obtuse. Sarcasm isn't your strong point either.

It does happen. The Cologne police covered up the New Year's Eve incident, for about two days. But in Rotherham in England, police and the local council covered up the extremely serious systematic paedophiliac sexual abuse of perhaps 1,400 young girls by a group of older men for many years, allowing and enabling it to go on, because the girls were white (and of low social status) and the men were Pakistani.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rother...tation_scandal

However, the reason why the authorities sometimes do this tends to be misreported. It's not so much 'political correctness' as the fear of race riots started by majority whites and causing a breakdown in civil order with attendant deaths and widespread property damage. That's not to excuse the authorities, particularly in the unforgivable Rotherham case, but that's why they do it. They're minding their own backs and their own jobs because they'd be in big trouble if the town burns down.

Yes, rape laws were changed in 2005, it may have had some effect, but it is ridiculous to believe that is a sufficient explanation, the increase started well before those laws were implemented and why is there no spike at 2005?

reported sex crimes, source BRÅ, a state run organization.

Wait till Fly learns about code 291 in Sweden, that will blow his mind!

I missed this reading it the first time, did you edit?

That is because that rhymes with your world view, I have read less than a handful of articles on Breitbart, but in this case they are just reporting what their sources have said is happening in Swedish media AND fits their agenda. These are the same reasons liberal sources ignore such stories, it goes against their agenda.

You seem to be the type of guy who thinks there is a good and a bad side and a true and false source of news..

ok, I had a look at the study done by Martin Hällsten, Rhyzard Szulkin and Jerzy Sarnetzky.

https://academic.oup.com/bjc/article...ity-The-Gap-in

I am actually well aware of this criticized study done by people who are best described as asylum activists. It is an outlier, national studies in the nordic countries have explained ethnic differences in criminality due to socio-economic factors at around 30-50%(the disreprancy of rape and violent crimes are even less explained by socio-economic factors). Yet this study arrives at the figure of 75%. Like I said it is a complete outlier.

I have to call out this BS.

The chances of race riots in countries like Sweden, Germany and UK are very low. Do you have anything to back up these claims?

Isn't it in many ways more likely to incite race riots after covering up when the truth is revealed?

I agree. The reason it wasn't dealt with is the same ****ing reason they ignored the same problem in every institution every ****ing time.

Ok, so you don't know why the Swede govt is "blocking" (?) a Danish study but you assume the worst.

Do you know why Breitbart is the "only" English site reporting on this ****? If you want other sites reporting on it you should check out Drudge Report, Info Wars and Fox News. They all have something in common.

But regardless, why do you think that article suggesting class / income accounts for the vast amount of the correlation your graphic depicted is "crap"? Can I see the meta analysis you're (I assume) referring to when you say only 30-50% of rape correlations are accounted for by controls for class?