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03-14-2017 , 04:46 PM
Serious question itt

Has Milo just resorted to posting ****ty content on FB and YT since being fired from Breitbart? Or is he doing something I'm missing?
03-14-2017 , 06:11 PM
I would think his career is on life support, but I am not sure. I'd be surprised if he is doing much.
03-16-2017 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
another way of saying this is that the world would be a much better place if only one person in a family had to work. do you agree?

why is this not the norm anymore?
It's not the norm because it didn't work emotionally. Not everybody in the family unit was happy about it. Just because dad and kids like it, doesn't mean everyone is happy.

Furthermore, it didn't work economically. If dad lost his job or got sick and died, mom didn't have the work skills needed to pick up where he left off. If there was a divorce, both suffered financially.

There are a lot of other reasons, but that's a good start.
03-16-2017 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Hahahaha. Every single thing about you is bull****. Lol at you using that data, exit poll data, and the total showing Trump's votes at 46.68 million total when be received 62.9 million. Lol at me specifically mentioning high school students.

Lololololol. Every single post of yours is total nonsense. You're such a ****ing dildo.

http://hispanicheritage.org/50000-ge...fy-republican/

“Our findings shocked us and clearly state that the Trump effect was not only felt by adults and can have an impact going forward with Generation Z. It’s also an important message that youth can’t be taken for granted as to how they lean politically by either side of the aisle.

Lol at your constant lies and straight up bull****. You people are so awful even the kids in high school hate your guts, something I've never seen happen in my adult life.

Millennials are a lost generation. We will have the young ones behind them. Thank God.
16 year olds would vote for a very recognizable and charismatic celebrity? Shocked.
03-16-2017 , 10:07 AM
Figured you missed this well named..



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Originally Posted by juan valdez
well named you really need to scrutinize all of your social construction theories. they have been derived from the philosophy of radical feminists. they are anti common sense and anti science

the dead beat dad thing isn't a social construction. society isnt coercing men in to abandoning their children. it isnt a social construction. on the flip side, the same goes with the stats that show single parent children are with their mothers. again, not a social construction

theres things like hormones. i know, youre sick of hearing about hormones, but they matter. biology matters. old men commit less crime than men because their hormones change. men commit more crime than women because their hormones are different. women are more attached their babies biologically, because their hormones. women have hormonal reactions through their pregnancy and after the birth. this is demonstrated through a mountain of different studies

the first google result
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...mother/384179/

the choices women make aren't anecdotes or a social construction. its vastly different biology and hormones. a vastly different hormonal reaction to becoming pregnant. a vastly different hormonal reaction to interacting with the newborn. the hormonal differences and changes in women compared to men aren't in response to a social construction

these social construct theories have gone so far in to the territory of absurd. i can buy in to the idea that womens fashion is heavily influenced by social construction or something along those lines but to take it to the point where you believe mothers and fathers maternal instincts are a social construct, you have to be completely brainwashed, scientifically ******ed, or just not putting much thought in to it
... cause inquiring minds would be appreciative of a response

Also,

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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
I always find it weird that the wage gap is a myth claims come right before an explanation as to why women earn less than men.

I know these guys aren't aiming for consistency here, but still.

A little moar help on the "wage gap is a myth claim", in just 60 seconds!!




... explained a little moar:

03-16-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
It's not the norm because it didn't work emotionally. Not everybody in the family unit was happy about it. Just because dad and kids like it, doesn't mean everyone is happy.

Furthermore, it didn't work economically. If dad lost his job or got sick and died, mom didn't have the work skills needed to pick up where he left off. If there was a divorce, both suffered financially.

There are a lot of other reasons, but that's a good start.
I think it's important to stress that some were, and not to assume all were unhappy. As I've said, women's happiness levels have been going downwards for decades. I'm not saying they should be home in the kitchen at all, but more like "welcome to the club".

The choice should rest in their hands, but to say they all should work is a bit of an over reach. I know plenty of women who don't work and they are extremely happy with their lives.
03-16-2017 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
16 year olds would vote for a very recognizable and charismatic celebrity? Shocked.
This statement goes exactly against the way he was portrayed in the media. Trump was about as charismatic as a cancer ward.
03-16-2017 , 12:41 PM
Obligatory statement to say I did not watch the utoobz.
03-16-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Obligatory statement to say I did not watch the utoobz.
The second one was done by a second wave feminist who is an academic and author.

Im not sure why the method in which she delivers her message is relevant. I mean I have seen all sorts of nonsense articles in newspapers both from the left and the right. But the message is all of a sudden more relevant and credible because it comes in print form?
03-16-2017 , 01:02 PM
Well, bombarding me with hours of utoobz to pick the bones from is something I'm not playing along with on principle. It also brings up the issue that whatever they say in the video needs a cite, so you might as well give me that in the first place. And it also avoids this thing people do where they post someone else's hour long argument and expect me to respond to that, instead of having them actually present the argument themselves.

If I want to argue with random youtubers then they have a comments section.
03-16-2017 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Well, bombarding me with hours of utoobz to pick the bones from is something I'm not playing along with on principle. It also brings up the issue that whatever they say in the video needs a cite, so you might as well give me that in the first place. And it also avoids this thing people do where they post someone else's hour long argument and expect me to respond to that, instead of having them actually present the argument themselves.

If I want to argue with random youtubers then they have a comments section.
Christina Hoff Summers is not a random youtube though she is a well respected academic. And any time I have seen an hour long video it has been time stamped.

Her arguments on the surface make sense to me at least, for example hours worked and different professions chosen between the sexes. Men go for riskier better paid jobs and also jobs like engineers , apprenticeships for skilled labour ect. Women gravitate towards teaching and nursing.

It does mirror the people i know personally which is why it makes sense to me. Anecdotal I know.

I think they way the wage gap is presented is disingenuous but I agree that sexism still exists and that we need to do something about it. I dont believe we live in a patriarchy though and there are some situations where females have privilege and some where males do.

I will respond to your last post btw but will be busy until Monday.

Have a good weekend everybody.
03-16-2017 , 03:11 PM
Well, if they do kind of make sense on the surface, maybe think a bit deeper?

Here's my guess of what they had to say: the pay gap isn't real, of course women earn less than men, something something choices.

And this adds nothing to the debate, really. Because we know that men and women behave differently. We know they take different degrees, do different hours, and all that other stuff. The issue is that Well Named has already gone to great lengths explaining that beyond these there are still studies showing a portion of the wage gap unaccounted for, and anyone who isn't satisfied with mere surface level explanation is interested in the whys and wherefores of those different choices.

I'm not going to reiterate his posts because he's already done it better than I can, but there's your starting point if you actually want to further the discussion.
03-16-2017 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I think it's important to stress that some were, and not to assume all were unhappy. As I've said, women's happiness levels have been going downwards for decades. I'm not saying they should be home in the kitchen at all, but more like "welcome to the club".

The choice should rest in their hands, but to say they all should work is a bit of an over reach. I know plenty of women who don't work and they are extremely happy with their lives.
I agree that it should be their choice. It should also be a man's choice in all ways equivalent.
03-17-2017 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Well, bombarding me with hours of utoobz
LOL hours wot?? 1st video is 60 seconds & second video is 5 minutes ... Stop being lazy

Also, we should really be discussing the defining issue of our time; Islam and its oppressive practices wrt the treatment of women & gays, along with the religions overall actions when dealing with human rights issues across the world

Last edited by NoQuarter; 03-17-2017 at 04:26 AM.
03-17-2017 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
...

Also, we should really be discussing the defining issue of our time; Islam and its oppressive practices wrt the treatment of women & gays, along with the religions overall actions when dealing with human rights issues across the world
We tried that. You failed miserably. Should we go to the tape?
03-17-2017 , 05:21 AM
Sure, but by the tone of your post, you seem to be caught up in some delusion that this "tape" you speak of will somehow lean in your favor.

Some real "tape" truth help you can read to better familiarize yourself :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...lieve-1645074/
03-17-2017 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
Sure, but by the tone of your post, you seem to be caught up in some delusion that this "tape" you speak of will somehow lean in your favor.

Some real "tape" truth help you can read to better familiarize yourself :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...lieve-1645074/
Lawl, yeah champ, that's the exact thread I was referring to. You couldn't last 3 posts. Start here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=447
03-17-2017 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
LOL hours wot?? 1st video is 60 seconds & second video is 5 minutes ... Stop being lazy

Also, we should really be discussing the defining issue of our time; Islam and its oppressive practices wrt the treatment of women & gays, along with the religions overall actions when dealing with human rights issues across the world
I didn't click them. Frequently we get much longer. It doesn't matter, you can either make the argument yourself and use some cites or I don't care. Diverting to third party vlogs and **** doesn't interest me.
03-17-2017 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
No, it'll never be a man's equivalent. We'd rather kill ourselves than hear it day after day.

There's a reason why when they walk through the door it's a 45 minute story. Not a social construct. It's biological.
Just to be clear, you're saying that women can't have the equivalent freedom or choices as men because men won't tolerate it because they talk too much?

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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Lot of stereotypes in that story. Certainly not how my conversations go with my wife.
+1
03-17-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i know you guys mostly enjoy fighting, but i would really love to hear informed opinions on my question. i've said this before, but one of the reasons i never had children is because i always believed there should be one biological parent at home the first few years. i would certainly love to be that parent in such a scenario. and if this was normal a few decades ago, what changed? can and should we want to go backwards in that respect? economically speaking?
It's a pretty simple answer actually. Productivity is way up over the last 50 years, while wages are totally stagnant. Costs keep going up (inflation), so it takes more and more hours worked to sustain a family.

03-17-2017 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
Figured you missed this well named..





... cause inquiring minds would be appreciative of a response

Also,




A little moar help on the "wage gap is a myth claim", in just 60 seconds!!
This again, huh?

The gender wage gap exists. From Wiki:

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after adjusting for choices made by male and female workers in college major, occupation, working hours, and parental leave, multiple studies find that pay rates between males and females varied by 5–6.6% or, females earning 94 cents to every dollar earned by their male counterparts.
We also have empirical evidence of gender discrimination:

http://gap.hks.harvard.edu/orchestra...male-musicians

So it seems reasonable to assume that some if not all of the 5-6% wage gap is due to gender discrimination.

And this doesn't even cover how women have been discouraged from pursuing high paying careers.
03-17-2017 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Certainly not how my conversations go with my wife.
LOL, I know you aint lying..... Lotta "Yes maam" in your family no doubt, Im sure. Dont feel bad, demasculation of men is the new masculine nowadays.

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Originally Posted by 13ball
This again, huh?

The gender wage gap exists. From Wiki:



We also have empirical evidence of gender discrimination:

http://gap.hks.harvard.edu/orchestra...male-musicians

So it seems reasonable to assume that some if not all of the 5-6% wage gap is due to gender discrimination.

And this doesn't even cover how women have been discouraged from pursuing high paying careers.
LOL



Speaking of kerolol, where she been? I guess she feels that her work is done in PoliticsDitto
03-17-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
This again, huh?

The gender wage gap exists. From Wiki:



We also have empirical evidence of gender discrimination:

http://gap.hks.harvard.edu/orchestra...male-musicians

So it seems reasonable to assume that some if not all of the 5-6% wage gap is due to gender discrimination.

And this doesn't even cover how women have been discouraged from pursuing high paying careers.
It is definitely worth noting how the "Men's Right's Advocates" have made this their absolute #1 issue, trying to "debunk" the gender gap. And sadly they have convinced a lot of people, through mutilation of statistics, as well as playing on their already existing biases, that they are right.

But the facts are the facts are the facts:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...-income-level/
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Tuesday, April 14, is the 19th annual Equal Pay Day. The day is a symbolic representation of the gender pay gap: The average woman would have had to work all last year and into April this year to earn as much as the average man did in 2014 alone. But speaking in averages isn’t always the best way to understand the wage gap. Factors such as race, education and workweek hours can drastically widen (and narrow) the difference between men’s and women’s pay.

For example, the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning nonprofit think tank, looked at the hourly wages for men and women across income percentiles and found that at every decile, men outearned women in 2014. The gap is largest at the 95th percentile, with women earning only 79 percent of what men earn in the same income level.1 The narrowing of the wage gap for low-income earners is largely due to the minimum wage, which is the same for men and women. But the lowest-wage occupations remain disproportionately female.

Happy Unequal Pay Day, ladies.
03-17-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
LOL, I know you aint lying..... Lotta "Yes maam" in your family no doubt, Im sure. Dont feel bad, demasculation of men is the new masculine nowadays.
itto
Obviously, any man who respects a woman has been castrated.
03-17-2017 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
LOL
Great counterargument.

      
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