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03-09-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
So, Wil actually believes the average tolerant 20 year old will become a bigot later in life because he cannot understand other people being tolerant.

System, what you're actually arguing in the above post isn't really controversial at all, but it's completely opposite from what Wil is asserting. What you're asserting is, obviously backed up both by data and common sense. Wil is arguing...the opposite.
Are you saying that everyone on the right is a bigot? Because that is blatantly not true and if you believe that you are probably living in an echo chamber.
03-09-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ymmv
Swing and a miss from wil what else is new.

Keep lying to yourself lol
You should look through your last 20 interactions with me and note how many times you've said "try harder" and "swing and a miss". You really come off as someone with a mental handicap.
03-09-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by superslug
People have been saying that about the generation that proceeds them for centuries. I was reading a book about the British Empire and back in the around mid 1800s alot of older Brits were worried that the younger generation were going soft ect. People trying to discredit subsequent generations is nothing new.
Well, sure. Socrates said - “The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

The point I am making is it's totally normal for younger people to be that way, and now seeing that maybe that trend is shifting is very interesting. Possibly worrisome.

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Millennials im sure will not be without their problems but at the same time they haven't enslaved anyone , havent not given blacks equal rights and not been responsible for illegal wars based on propaganda. Millenials are probably the least sexist least racist generation we have every had.


Although to be fair they in some cases they have tried to be so progressive they have ended up being regressive, I think they have gone to far left almost towards being authoritarian left. I think the SJW movement will die out though as people realize how ludicrous their movement is at times.
No, I think they are a very special group of people. I think they will have a lot of problems. I really think they are screwed up human beings. I could be wrong. I actually hope I am wrong, but I know I really do not like what I'm seeing.
03-09-2017 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
No one has ever said it's automatic. It's a complex transition, and I agree with you that plenty of people never change. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and for a bunch of different reasons. I've seen both sides of it, but I will tell you I've seen MUCH less conservatives drifting towards liberalism than the reverse. Without question.
No one's arguing against the idea that people tend to drift rightwards economically as they get older. You've completely missed the point so I'll try to express it another way.

When people are young they tend to be idealistic and poor, factors which tend to steer them leftwards for both dogmatic (idealism) and pragmatic (wanting a bigger slice of the cake) reasons.

As they get older they tend to realise that some of their 'isms' don't work as well as they once thought, and meanwhile have accumulated enough wealth to want to protect it, factors that tend to drive them towards the right.

It's not logical to lump people's social views on abortion, LGBT and marijuana in with their economic views and assume that these will also become less progressive with age.
03-09-2017 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by superslug
Are you saying that everyone on the right is a bigot? Because that is blatantly not true and if you believe that you are probably living in an echo chamber.
No, but wil believes his bigoted opinions on LGBT youths, African American female athletes etcetera is correct and young people who disagree will learn the "correct" ways with experience. He thinks people who disagree with him are messed up.
03-09-2017 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
It's not logical to lump people's social views on abortion, LGBT and marijuana in with their economic views and assume that these will also become less progressive with age.
Are you saying you can't see someone's views on abortion change after they have children, or a pro-drug stance question that after they lose a loved one to addiction?

That's absolutely illogical to you?
03-09-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
No, but wil believes his bigoted opinions on LGBT youths, African American female athletes etcetera is correct and young people who disagree will learn the "correct" ways with experience. He thinks people who disagree with him are messed up.
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You do this constantly. Why? It's blatantly obvious to anyone who can just scroll up 6 posts that I've never made this claim or said anything close to this. You tend to do it a lot more when laughed at by other posters in an attempt to "revise" what you said earlier, or an attempt to hide/bury some idiocy you said earlier.

It's really an annoying habit. You should try to break out of it, it would probably help your social life as I can't see it being anything but insufferable to other people in the real world.
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03-09-2017 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
No, but wil believes his bigoted opinions on LGBT youths, African American female athletes etcetera is correct and young people who disagree will learn the "correct" ways with experience. He thinks people who disagree with him are messed up.
What were his in your opinion bigoted opinions on LGBT youths or African American female athletes? Personally iv not seen him say anything bigoted.

Where has he said anyone that disagrees with him is messed up?

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03-09-2017 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Are you saying you can't see someone's views on abortion change after they have children, or a pro-drug stance question that after they lose a loved one to addiction?

That's absolutely illogical to you?
I don't think having kids makes many people more anti-abortion, at least here in the less religious UK, thankfully.

A similar thing applies to drugs - 2,5000 deaths from illegal drugs p.a. from a population of ~60M isn't going to have a huge influence on the population's views.

So yes, it is illogical to assume that people's social views automatically drift rightward along with their economic views.
03-09-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I don't think having kids makes many people more anti-abortion, at least here in the less religious UK, thankfully.

A similar thing applies to drugs - 2,5000 deaths from illegal drugs p.a. from a population of ~60M isn't going to have a huge influence on the population's views.

So yes, it is illogical to assume that people's social views automatically drift rightward along with their economic views.
I think your own biases are coming in to play here, that you believe everyone else thinks somewhat similarly to you.

That being said, you could be more correct than me here. Let me do some reading tonight and get back to this later.
03-09-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
How's what allowable?



This doesn't seem correct to me at all, but I will grant you we have some time to see how it all shakes out. The backlash against the idiocy of left leaves me with some hope.

France next. We shall see. My disgust for the left grows daily, and I will be happy to see them utterly defeated. Trump was a good step in that direction, if he can just avoid getting his ass impeached.
Insulting people by suggesting they try a "gay thing", and telling someone heterosexual to engage in experimenting with someone of the same sex as if this is something worthy of derision.

As far as demographical breakdowns of voting and ideology:

2016 Presidential Election
18-29: HRC 55%, DJT 36%
30-44: HRC 51%, DJT 41%

Party Affiliation
18-29: 51% D, 35% R

Ideology
18-29: Combined "Left", 45% (Steadfast Liberals + Faith and Family Left + Next Generation Left) …. Combined "Conservative", 29% (Steadfast Conservatives + Business Conservatives + Young Outsiders) ….. note that "Young Outsiders" consists of people who identify as GOP and fiscally conservative but socially liberal

Same-sex marriage support
18-29: 78%
30-49: 63%

Religiously unaffiliated
18-29: 25% (America overall = 16%)

Abortion pro-choice/pro-life stance:
18-29: 50%-40% (America overall = 47%-46%)

You said I wasn't correct at all. What was I wrong about?

Will post links below.
03-09-2017 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You should look through your last 20 interactions with me and note how many times you've said "try harder" and "swing and a miss". You really come off as someone with a mental handicap.
try harder. you clearly need it lol
03-09-2017 , 08:18 PM
Looking forward to wil ignoring the links 2outs posted.
03-10-2017 , 01:18 AM
Am I the only person than thinks about this,



When watching Moreshitty and wil talk to each other?

It's incredible.
03-10-2017 , 01:27 AM
'Now I don't hate me a n****r or nothing like that but I'll be good goddamned if my tax dollars go towards those obamaphones!'

And as true as the day is long, every one of these clowns thinks that they're a bold and unique thinker.


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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I do have that experience and I can tell you that very few of my generation who had these views as young people have since abandoned them.

It's too easy and lazy to say that all progressive views across the board are prone to the usual rightwards drift with age that is usually driven by changes in personal economics.

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03-10-2017 , 01:34 AM
Who does this drooling abortion think he's fooling?


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Originally Posted by wil318466
I think your own biases are coming in to play here, that you believe everyone else thinks somewhat similarly to you.

That being said, you could be more correct than me here. Let me do some reading tonight and get back to this later.
03-10-2017 , 02:46 AM
It's just lil wil's way of protecting his 100% record on being right about everything. He's a funny little guy.
03-10-2017 , 05:15 AM
You know, I really think you people need to reassess your lives a little bit. One person posts a response to something I say and I haven't even read it yet and 4 of you, in a row, all comment about it, not due to the content but due your anticipation of how I'll react.

Lol.
03-10-2017 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ymmv
try harder. you clearly need it lol
I don't really need to try harder. Maybe you can spend time in other threads spouting how much you hate me.

Pretty sad. Funny, though.
03-10-2017 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
It's just lil wil's way of protecting his 100% record on being right about everything. He's a funny little guy.
Are you calling Wil a tiny guy all the time because of the stereo type that Asians are small people...............that is racist you pig.
03-10-2017 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't really need to try harder. Maybe you can spend time in other threads spouting how much you hate me.



Pretty sad. Funny, though.


Delusional too. Yikes. Keep swinging though!

Definitely interesting to watch wil having another complete meltdown in real time without being aware of it himself though
03-10-2017 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by superslug
Are you saying that everyone on the right is a bigot? Because that is blatantly not true and if you believe that you are probably living in an echo chamber.
beyond the shadow of a shadow's doubt.
03-10-2017 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ymmv
Delusional too. Yikes. Keep swinging though!

Definitely interesting to watch wil having another complete meltdown in real time without being aware of it himself though
Heh, this is nothing in the remote vicinity of a meltdown. ****, I'm not even drunk yet.
03-10-2017 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Heh, this is nothing in the remote vicinity of a meltdown. ****, I'm not even drunk yet.

      
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