Which academic realm do you consider yourself to be "in the loop" of?

Trump held back the upwpord mobility of AA with his racist housing actions.

Hahahaha.....

Hahahahahaha....

I don't think you know what a White Supremecist is.

And this is why you're out of the loop, and I fear you will ignore your way into losing another election for democrats. You are unwilling to even look at what the other identity promoting side is saying first hand, and how they're using your own methods against you. To be clear, the kid in the video absolutely told the white people in his class they should commit suicide to better the black situation. I do not know if this was some sort of mock school argument or what, but there are countless examples of such things all over social media, and the right is just eating your breakfast.

Just like Tilted, you don't seem to know what a White Supremecist is.

EasyMac, denial by accusations is foreseeable from you.

Like you have special knowledge of the matter, but did you share?

How about Berkley and Evergreen college, for starters?

Foldn, you are in an 'academic' tribe now bro. GL defending the tribe.

The battle for culture is taking place on Twitter and YouTube right now.

Just follow Dave Rubin on YouTube if you want to be in the loop, well named. Classical liberal, gay, married.

Dude you are taking anecdotal YouTubez and extrapolating it to "everyone is doing this". Yeah, there are crazy liberals, and there are some kids saying dumb things on college campuses.

That fact that you think that is a big deal is the problem. I don't know how you expect us to counter that, or how you expect "the left" to cutoff every college-aged crazy before he manages to say something stupid and get it put up on YooToob.

To be fair, I do yield to JiggyMac's expertise on white supremacy.

The point isn't that Youtube isn't an interesting vehicle for a content analysis of American politics or the culture wars. I recently helped with a sociological content analysis of memes posted to the Men's Rights subreddit. It was quite interesting.

The point is that linking that video in response to what I wrote, in order to establish some problem with identity politics on the left, is like me linking some random racist asshat's youtube channel to establish the point that the American right has a white supremacy problem. It's a big world out there. Lots of people say lots of things. There's an obvious problem of representativeness.

One of the more interesting results of the MRA study was just to see the way that social movements maintain collective identity through outrage. In that case it was outrage about feminism. Social media (and Youtube) is great for this. There's always something to be outraged by. It's mostly an exercise in the fallacy of the dramatic instance. Edit: to be clear -- This happens on the left as well. My wife's facebook feed provides daily examples.

It is fully conceded that there are folks on the left who have dumb ideas.

People ****ing burned down campus property in Berkley because of a what the Left would call a Twitter Troll. The President of the United States tweets daily, sometimes hourly.

PewdiePie has 50 MILLION subscribers. The WSJ circulation is 1.2 Million.

You can't say "well, it's just the YouTubez". That's being out of touch.

He a racist then. So meh?

I'm still holding my opinion on Evergreen, but so far it looks really bad. There are multiple videos showing students and even some faculty maybe in effect taking administrators hostage, escorting them to the bathroom, chiding them for using their hands to talk.... weird, cult like behavior, not to mention the charges Weinstein has been making about them hunting his students on campus, threatening his wife. Weinstein is not a right winger by any stretch either, but even this is brushed off and ignored as right wing propaganda by so many here and in the press.

I mean, I get it, Fox News = bad, but at what point to you start producing explanations for this behavior? I'm not trying to smear college students for being over passionate about their advocacy, which is typical, but where is this stuff coming from? It sucks that I can't find many uncut full videos, or at least some that will put the situation in a better light. But why haven't the students and faculty who are shown recording these events releasing any with some explanations to defend their actions?

apples to apples right here lolz

The point is - the Left is mainstreaming their dumb ideas.

Linda Sarsour
Assata Shakur
BLM (cops are getting killed because of YouTube videos)
Not taking an honest look at Muslim culture
Abandoning Bill Maher as a racist because he used the N-word
Their autistic screeching over Trump and Russia
Van Jones's "White lash" comment


It's not the scope is much broader than you think - and it's honestly one of the reasons Trump got elected.

Personally, I'm glad the Left is wearing their blinders - it'll keep getting those on the Right elected. I don't know if I agree that a one party system is good for the country though.

I'm trying my best not to do what you are describing, but you're correct that is what lots and lots of people do, on all sides. This is what I'm talking about here:

This is the rabbit hole you're facing when playing the identity politics, aka, tribalism game. Loss of benefit of the doubt, polarization, pushing out other "bad" opinions, loss of contextualization, further polarization. This is what the Richard Spencers are thriving on, he wants to promote tribalism, and he has a much bigger pool to draw from.

The only good news is however, the generation behind the millennials is kind of sick of seeing the bull**** millennials are spewing and actively rejecting it. A centrist identity seems to be taking shape.

Linda Sarsour is not mainstream, lol. I have never heard of Assata Shakur.

An article critiquing the left's handling of Islam was posted in Vox of all places, and I linked it here. This is probably the one area where I think you almost make a valid point.

I don't give a **** about Bill Maher one way or another.

Trump and Russia has literally nothing to do with "identity politics".

It is descriptively correct, if you look at various survey data, to describe some of the trends in contemporary American politics as a "whitelash".

Classic liberal is a maybe I'm duped by racists signal. Suddenly a magic centrist is born. Just wants to belong all along.

Exactly! This is culturally relevant and you're out of touch.
The Russian issue is just a demonstration of the "radicalization" of thought on the Left - not just identity politics.
Jake Tapper is tweeting about Sarsour and Shakur - sorry you're not aware.
As for Whitelash, Van Jones had to actually go interview white Trump voters to realize "Hey, not all white folks are racists". At least he was willing to get out of his bubble.

Jiggy needs to be in control of culture. Seizing the means of saying what is main stream, my tribe is the main stream, all you other streams are just leftists.

The fact that it is YouTubez does not invalidate it. It's that it's just a video of one ****ing guy.

That guy is not a politician, he doesn't represent any poster in this forum or 99.99% of potential Democrat voters in any way.

If you want to have a discussion about how people on the right managed to take people like that and tie him to a center-right party then sure, that's an interesting and relevant discussion.

But discussion of that guy or his ilk is no more relevant than discussion of the KKK.