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08-13-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
And things just keep getting better and better.
Um it has gotten better since people have been confronting white supremacy. Do you know noting about American history?
08-13-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Yeah, notice how things started getting better and better in January of this year?
because things were great before that
08-13-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Um it has gotten better since people have been confronting white supremacy. Do you know noting about American history?
I have no problem with confronting white supremacy. But I think we are being way too lenient with leftist groups whose rhetoric and agendas aren't much better.

Personally I don't think you can support reverse racism AND effectively combat racism at the same time. "Alt right" movements (and our current choice of president) are horrible, but also completely predictable reaction to our pandering to fringe left wing groups in the name of social justice.
08-13-2017 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickben00
I have no problem with confronting white supremacy. But I think we are being way too lenient with leftist groups whose rhetoric and agendas aren't much better.
We?

Cite that i have been to lenient with leftist groups? Please define the groups and link info and my being to lenient.

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Personally I don't think you can support reverse racism AND effectively combat racism at the same time. "Alt right" movements (and our current choice of president) are horrible, but also completely predictable reaction to our pandering to fringe left wing groups in the name of social justice.
What reverse racism do i support?
08-13-2017 , 01:57 PM
The nebulous threat of "leftist" groups shared ITF appears to be a hashtag and anti-fascism strategy. So, please proceed, I suppose.
08-13-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
We?



Cite that i have been to lenient with leftist groups? Please define the groups and link info and my being to lenient.





What reverse racism do i support?


I'm still trying to find out if they believe it's like driving in reverse? How does it work in action?
08-13-2017 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xnbomb
because things were great before that
Yes. We didn't have white nationalist terrorists acting out. We weren't on the brink of a nuclear war. We had a fully functioning State Department. We had a leader who wasn't a laughing stock to the rest of the world. Things were pretty great last year compared to this year.
08-13-2017 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickben00
I have no problem with confronting white supremacy. But I think we are being way too lenient with leftist groups whose rhetoric and agendas aren't much better.

Personally I don't think you can support reverse racism AND effectively combat racism at the same time. "Alt right" movements (and our current choice of president) are horrible, but also completely predictable reaction to our pandering to fringe left wing groups in the name of social justice.
False ****ing equivalency much? If rampant racism is a completely predictable solution to the left then the left hasn't been working hard enough to educate the dumb****s who still think that is acceptable.
08-13-2017 , 03:18 PM
Why would you expect the rampant racism of the left to "teach" the right that racism is wrong?
08-13-2017 , 03:30 PM
What is your solution to generations of racism? Do you think affected minorities should be given any restitution or relief for overt and systemic racism? I suppose you're talking about affirmative action? What is your solution to colleges and businesses not hiring or admitting minorities? You make is sound like whites are justifying their racism because groups they've been racist against for essentially ever are getting the same opportunities.
08-13-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
I'm still trying to find out if they believe it's like driving in reverse? How does it work in action?
It works practically by speaking out against racism. If you do you get an automatic entry into becoming a reversed racist against the white race.
08-13-2017 , 03:42 PM
I don't think taking **** away from poor white people and giving it to poor black people is very effective in accomplishing much of anything, except maintaining the status quo.

The true roots of the Tensions in any capitalist system including our own are class ones. and when a political candidate tried to speak out against this, his own party, which is supposed to be the progressive one, conspired against him to shut him down. And a corrupt con man conned his way to the presidency just by pretending he gave a ****.

The entire race debate going on right now is a huge smoke screen to distract us from the true structural basis of inequity in our system.
08-13-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickben00
I don't think taking **** away from poor white people and giving it to poor black people is very effective in accomplishing much of anything, except maintaining the status quo.

The true roots of the Tensions in any capitalist system including our own are class ones. and when a political candidate tried to speak out against this, his own party, which is supposed to be the progressive one, conspired against him to shut him down. And a corrupt con man conned his way to the presidency just by pretending he gave a ****.

The entire race debate going on right now is a huge smoke screen to distract us from the true structural basis of inequity in our system.
sorry dude but your opinions are completely divorced from reality. no one advocates your first paragraph. you have been brainwashed by right wing propaganda.
08-13-2017 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
sorry dude but your opinions are completely divorced from reality. no one advocates your first paragraph. you have been brainwashed by right wing propaganda.
He specifically used the terms "restitution and relief". Who do you think is going to be paying for these things if they come about. I'll tell you who isn't. Rich whitey. That is not how the system works. The top 1% is going to get theirs no matter what. It's all a matter of how they decide to best pertition the left over crumbs to keep the sheeple in line.
08-13-2017 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
sorry dude but your opinions are completely divorced from reality. no one advocates your first paragraph. you have been brainwashed by right wing propaganda.
Also, big lol to you if you think my ideas come from right wing propaganda. You actually literally could not be more wrong if you tried. You literally could not say anything more incorrect. Impressive.
08-13-2017 , 09:47 PM
The idea that welfare comes from poor whites and goes to blacks doesn't come from right wing propaganda, it IS right wing propaganda. Get ****ed
08-13-2017 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The idea that welfare comes from poor whites and goes to blacks doesn't come from right wing propaganda, it IS right wing propaganda. Get ****ed
So you think rich whitey is paying his fair share of taxes??

That is more in line with right wing propaganda than anything I said. Rich whitey is actually the beneficiary of welfare (which isn't based in race last time I checked). Cause they are highly disproportionately reaping the rewards of increased productivity by outsourcing low paying jobs (or robotics), while the rest of us pay the tab in taxes.
08-13-2017 , 09:54 PM
The idea that welfare is taken from the white poor and given to undeserving blacks was created by "rich whitey" to get out of paying his fair share, you ****ing moron.

(Also Obama raised taxes on the rich)

Get ****ed, fascist.
08-13-2017 , 09:55 PM
Don't you dare adopt our language or pretend you supported Sanders, you ****ing clown. We see through it, because we know how we talk about race, and you ain't doing it.
08-13-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The idea that welfare is taken from the white poor and given to undeserving blacks was created by "rich whitey" to get out of paying his fair share, you ****ing moron.

(Also Obama raised taxes on the rich)

Get ****ed, fascist.
That must be how you perceive welfare. Last time I checked more white people were in welfare than black.

I wouldn't be surprised if a significant percentage of The neo nazis were on some form of welfare.
08-14-2017 , 12:51 AM
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That must be how you perceive welfare. Last time I checked more white people were in welfare than black.
No ****, that's the point

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I wouldn't be surprised if a significant percentage of The neo nazis were on some form of welfare.
I would be, white supremacy of that type is a petty bourgeois hobby.
08-14-2017 , 06:58 AM
Foldn,

Thought experiment, someone puts up a sign saying "All N*****s are scum" (without the asterisks) then someone else removes the sign and disposes of it. Is that a free speech issue? Is the second person's act morally good, morally bad or morally neutral? ie Should they remove the sign or should they leave it alone?
08-15-2017 , 09:22 AM
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...e-free-speech?
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In 1942, the Supreme Court ruled that "fighting words" are not protected under the First Amendment. The Court defines fighting words as "those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."

Considering that Saturday's rally turned violent, and led to one counterprotester's death, it's important to analyze the role that language may have played in sparking the violence and whether it was protected by the First Amendment.

While the generic anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant rants didn't rise to fighting words, free speech experts believe right-wing demonstrators may have gone too far when they called specific people "******" or "******" These could be interpreted as fighting words because they are slurs directed at certain individuals that would lead a reasonable person to retaliate.

'Thems fighting words!'

      
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