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Ed Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, and Julian Assange Ed Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, and Julian Assange
View Poll Results: Who should be hit with a drone?
Assange
5 22.73%
Snowden
4 18.18%
Greenwald
3 13.64%
Hitler
17 77.27%

07-03-2013 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
Assange put tons of peoples actual lives in jeopardy - there is not a very close comparison. He is probably actually responsible for the deaths of dozens (hundreds) of people in embassies, foreign countries and the like whose safety directly depended on their true job/identity/affiliations being safeguarded.
Link please.

Of course, lives wouldn't actually be in jeopardy if we weren't occupying nations in the first place for their natural resources we allegedly have "plenty" of, ourselves.

One lie on top of another lie on top of another.

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Originally Posted by monikrazy
This is an issue the public should really be outraged over, and its very upsetting to me that the reaction so far has been so muted.
That's because the Madison Avenue media gives you nothing beyond "where is this traitor?" ... and the average Facebook-addled American sops the ruse right up.
07-03-2013 , 06:06 PM
Lol Neil
07-03-2013 , 07:12 PM
B- troll, OP

Overplayed your hand by talking about Greenwald imo
07-03-2013 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
My current position:

Snowden needs to be taken dead or alive. Foolishly he seems to want to travel from China and Russia to countries that can't really do anything if USSOCOM Zero Dark Thirties him. So wait until he's in Ecuador or whatever and do it.
Its amazing how odious non-libertarians can be.

Going to be tough for the clearly racist Ed Snowden if he ends up in Ecuador, surely that's punishment enough.
07-03-2013 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Its amazing how odious non-libertarians can be.
Oh man, thanks for this post. I was getting a creepy feeling since I was agreeing with so many people that I generally think are wrong all the time.

It was good to see a full on ****** post to make me feel comfortable again.
07-03-2013 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Why not just google it?

He was accused of a laughably weak rape case. Both women involved said they don't want a prosecution, just a forced std test.
I didn't Google it because I was lazy and dont care that much. I am unchained.

Last edited by adios; 07-03-2013 at 08:26 PM.
07-03-2013 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Oh man, thanks for this post. I was getting a creepy feeling since I was agreeing with so many people that I generally think are wrong all the time.

It was good to see a full on ****** post to make me feel comfortable again.
You think OPs view wasn't odious?

If so good to know what you're coming from when you talk about ethics and you're right ACland as envisioned (however weakly) by Lirva wouldn't deliver your ethics.
07-03-2013 , 09:07 PM
Nice, more ******ed posts. I can feel my non-faith in you returning.

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, it's silly to take statements from one person and equate them to all non-libertarians.
07-03-2013 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Nice, more ******ed posts. I can feel my non-faith in you returning.

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, it's silly to take statements from one person and equate them to all non-libertarians.
Ah you just cant read properly. I never said that.

That should have been obvious even without advanced reading skills as you might recall I'm not a libertarian and I clearly dont agree with the OP.

You might as an ethical person like to withdraw your response. You might even tell me whether you agree that OP's view was odious.
07-03-2013 , 09:15 PM
Odious jimmies confirmed rustled
07-03-2013 , 09:20 PM
I have no idea what your idealogy is but saying "it's amazing how X non-Y can be" is certainly a general attack on non-Ys. If you didn't mean to do that then ok, cool (although you don't get to play the 'you can't read' line).

Yes I agree Neil is completely wrong here.
07-03-2013 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I have no idea what your idealogy is but saying "it's amazing how X non-Y can be" is certainly a general attack on non-Ys. If you didn't mean to do that then ok, cool (although you don't get to play the 'you can't read' line).

Yes I agree Neil is completely wrong here.
Thank you for agreeing with me about OP, well almost there's a big gap between completely wrong and odious. Still its good to see that non-libertarians can be reasonable about this.

Hopefully you can see that doesn't mean all non-libertarians are reasonable about this and can now understand that saying they can be odious doesn't mean they are all odious.

I've no good idea why you read it differently maybe its a 'separated by a common language' thing.

You ddin't have a go at me for the other bit about racism Hopefully you realised it was a reference to it being zomg obvious that Ron paul supporters are racist

Last edited by chezlaw; 07-03-2013 at 09:34 PM.
07-03-2013 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
You ddin't have a go at me for the other bit about racism Hopefully you realised it was a reference to it being zomg obvious that Ron paul supporters are racist
I just don't know enough of the context about your Snowden comment to comment on it.
07-04-2013 , 02:41 AM
Poll lacks a Neil S option
07-04-2013 , 04:22 AM
So has Neil ran away again?
07-04-2013 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Poll lacks a Neil S option


07-04-2013 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.mmmKay
So has Neil ran away again?
run is prolly better here imo
07-04-2013 , 08:15 AM
need spelling advice
07-04-2013 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I just don't know enough of the context about your Snowden comment to comment on it.
Ok well they went together a bit.

A lot of us sympathise with Ed Snowden, we might not agree with him and the jury is still out on whether his a good guy or not. At the very least he deserves a sympathetic hearing, however we expect the reaction of government to be vicious and stupid.

Its one of the reasons why people are libertarian or feel an attraction towards it and its absolutely nothing to do with the zomg obvious racists/sexcist nonsense that is thrown about by the hard of thinking.
07-04-2013 , 07:01 PM
LirvA calling for my death. What a punk. Go steal some french fries. I'm done. Don't forget to put on that skirt the next time you go cry about your daddy issues in ATF.
07-04-2013 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
LirvA calling for my death. What a punk. Go steal some french fries. I'm done.
What a surprise, no mods around to delete personal attacks so Neil S cries and takes his ball and goes home
07-04-2013 , 07:41 PM
lol who didn't say drone neil s?

Let this be a lesson tool, if you're going to eliminate due process you might just be next.
07-04-2013 , 11:05 PM
I didn't. I think he could use a vacay at club gitmo though.
07-05-2013 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
LirvA calling for my death. What a punk. Go steal some french fries. I'm done. Don't forget to put on that skirt the next time you go cry about your daddy issues in ATF.
What's the difference between LirvA calling for your death and you calling for Snowden, Greenwald, and Assange's?

Robespierre was shocked when he was sent to the guillotine.
07-05-2013 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
LirvA calling for my death. What a punk. Go steal some french fries. I'm done. Don't forget to put on that skirt the next time you go cry about your daddy issues in ATF.

Nah, I don't seriously think you should be droned. It was a funny post, so I thumb upped it. I don't think people should be killed, or charged with any sort of crime for expressing themselves, or spreading knowledge, or opinions to others. I highly suggest you adopt a similar position. I think you'd find it is a far more moral policy than locking people up, or droning them for exposing state secrets.

Don't take my post the wrong way. It's nothing personal against you, and I still like you, and we both still have common ground. I just think your position on Snowden, Greenwald, and Assange is terrible, and very anti civil liberty. It's become standard for both conservatives and liberals to support infringing on civil liberties. It's not a good way to represent people, and is not something that should be taken, and supported as a given. It should be opposed Neil.

      
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