I'm not sure any individual can accurately decide what is that value for others.

What would be Steve Job's value of labour and what is the most he would be "allowed" to be paid?

This thread is fantastic. Norway, 87 Octane fuel, Putin, Castro, Marx and "screw America". Why haven't I come across this earlier?

In case you are looking for cliffs..

I don't know. Maybe because you've only just figured out where Russia is?

I wish I could see Russia from my house.

New mod, all the oxpecker birds should stop; dirties up the place with a certain disaffected guano.

Spitfires and pilots are a much sexier hollywood story. 7 billion barrels of oil use by Allies in WW2, 6 billion provided by America.

Spitfires never get off the ground without it. Idk, you could see them coming with radar, maybe you could shoot them down with bow and arrows.

Amazing how many people don't really know what WW2 was about-oil. who had it and who had very little of the precious resource that was empowering nations. Hint: Germany and Japan had very little.

I hate to back Jiggs here (even a little). You're claiming he's reaching by blaming ISIS on the Bush administration... But you think it's totally logical to blame Obama for 100% of the carnage that's happened in Syria because he 'backed ISIS'.

We've been sending limited quantities of guns (which we started doing long after lots of other people were doing it) and training to people who we feel are on our side. Because the government is doing it this it cost many billions of dollars and the people who got the guns were not very effective.

If we're being honest with ourselves we'll acknowledge that up until we started dropping bombs on ISIS we were barely a player in this whole drama, and that's largely because Obama wants no part of another Middle Eastern ground war.

If we want to claim responsibility for ISIS as a country we have to acknowledge that the founders of ISIS used to be part of AQAP and got capable fighting us. We also have to acknowledge that we've fed them a steady diet of easily usable propaganda for years which substantially helped recruitment. We also have to claim responsibility for ISIS being able to invade Iraq and face the idiots we left in power in Iraq instead of Sadam.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Hussein was a pretty good ruler in the middle east. Yeah he killed a lot of people, but we surely did the same pushing him out. In fact if you take the Iran war and gassing the Kurds off his CV he looks damned near benevolent by middle eastern standards.

I never understood why we targeted him in particular if we wanted to be all about freedom. It seems to me that circa 2003 Sudan was MUCH worse. Also Sudan had an easy political solution (break into x individual countries). Of course South Sudan is still a dumpster fire, but that's what can be expected when a very poor country is only rich in oil.

EDIT: And seriously I get that you hate Obama... But what would you have him do differently in the middle east? You'd have us put boots on the ground in Syria? You'd have us establish a no fly zone (which would help ISIS a TON)? You'd have us back Assad? (Why would we do this when the Russians are willing to do it for us?)

I have my issues with Obama... But I think on foreign policy he's being blamed for coming into power with two wars and a very complex situation. I don't know that there was a 'right answer'. And I wouldn't be willing to spend another trillion dollars of our money to get a slightly better result in the middle east either.

Please tell me this is a troll. The Nazi's had no earthly idea how to build anything long lasting. Their legal system was a joke and that's not something that scales well.

Also we only lost 405k soldiers. We could have lost a few million more in the era before television. Germany is a powerful country but it can't take on the US, England, and the Soviet Union (which went on to spend the next almost 50 years as a super power) at the same time.

Now if Hitler has nothing to do with Japan or Pearl Harbor never happens... and he doesn't allow the British Army to escape at Dunkirk... the war is over a lot faster and some parts of Europe are speaking German right now.

AFAIK this is not true and we armed/funded the Syrian revolutionaries simultaneous with our fight in Iraq 2. It should have been pretty clear that a large number of the Syrian revolutionaries were there for religious reasons and that those weapons could easily be used against us, since that country literally borders one where we 'hoped to draw in all AQ elements so that we didn't have to fight them elsewhere.'

Still one can't really blame Obama more than continuing the logical course of action cause GWB and friends started (continued?) this policy against russian proxies.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terro...a-s-opposition

DS is a notoriously poor writer, but i think what he's saying is that if Germany had kept the Jews on their side and employed them in the war effort, then they'd have won. Which is wrong, of course.