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I guess because of the considerable body of world events that I've provided already. A list that's really just the tip of the iceberg. I could pepper the thread daily with similar news accounts of economic dams cracking. But I don't really need to any longer.

The hopium is strong with this one. Some of the best spin in the history of PU right here.

LOL... sad troll. I neither fear, nor see ongoing net energy decline as "The End of Times." ... It's soon the end of of times for modern, globalized, bubbled, crony capitalism as we know it, that's for sure. And the fallout from it will be breathtaking. I guess that's essentially "The End Times" for free market cultists like yourself, so I understand that you can't see the distinction.

I suppose the ever-increasing probability of war between nuclear nations nullifies all bets, but you hopium addicts have already assured us that's never going to happen ... or if it does, that it'll have nothing to do with energy shortage... You know, just like the smaller-scale conflicts that are already underway somehow have "nothing to do with" conflict over natural resources.

Conflict over natural resources started centuries ago shortly after they were assigned monetary values. But we are still here. How long does it take for the ****ing sky to fall anyway?

07-03-2016 , 01:06 AM

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Conflict over natural resources started centuries ago shortly after they were assigned monetary values. But we are still here. How long does it take for the ****ing sky to fall anyway?

Well-thought-out and super original argument.

The "stone age didn't end from lack of stones" strategy. Never seen that before.

07-04-2016 , 06:16 PM

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My point was merely that we live in the best of times because of technologists, not people who offshored jobs to china.

07-08-2016 , 05:40 PM

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Predict the S&P and/or the Dow by the closing bell Friday. Go.

Predict the first country to follow UK out the door. Go.

But then...

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The S&P 500 came within a hair's breadth of an all-time high Friday after the best jobs report in seven months.

The US economy added 287,000 jobs in the month of June, well above the 180,000 expected by economists. On the back of this strong economic result, all the major indexes leapt higher to end the week.

http://www.businessinsider.com/closi...-july-8-2016-7

07-08-2016 , 06:10 PM

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But then...

http://www.businessinsider.com/closi...-july-8-2016-7

LOL... papered-over false confidence leads to self congratulatory trolling re: artificially inflated markets. Standard.

Where would we be today without TARP, QE 1 2 3 and 4, years of monthy bond buying and ZIRPy derp? You don't dare attempt that answer. Good choice.

Meanwhile, global corporate defaults rate now back to 2009 levels, and sovereign credit is plummeting at a record rate. Please don't leave the forum when European banks, already at crisis lows, begin to crash.

07-08-2016 , 06:32 PM

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jiggs,

How inflated do you think the stock market is? What do you think the fair market value for the S and P 500 is?

07-08-2016 , 06:36 PM

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And what would the stock market be at if the fed hadn't appropriately stimulated the economy with loose monetary policy? Well, lower. We probably would have had a depression rather than a recession in 2008.

07-08-2016 , 06:50 PM

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Keed, In 1983 oil-dollars? wtf kinda question is that???

Jiggs, you should stop you are losing this really bad lmao.

07-08-2016 , 08:39 PM

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Keed, In 1983 oil-dollars? wtf kinda question is that???

Jiggs, you should stop you are losing this really bad lmao.

Really? The EU has never been healthier then? Markets aren't wildly inflated? Cool story. And quite a reversal from the "you" of a few pages ago.

07-08-2016 , 09:06 PM

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Markets are wildly inflated compared to what? P/E for the market is like 22, which is a bit high. No one would be shocked by a 25% fall in the market right now. And that's a perfectly natural thing to happen after a 7 year bull market! Who cares?

07-08-2016 , 09:23 PM

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LOL... papered-over false confidence leads to self congratulatory trolling re: artificially inflated markets. Standard.

Jiggs, never ever forget what a scared little sheep you are. You're the reason passive-investing idiots like me can make money just sitting around eating pancakes and watching porn. Every single time the market dips you **** yourself and buy gold coins and MREs and make the game soft for everyone else.

07-08-2016 , 09:25 PM

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How inflated do you think the stock market is? What do you think the fair market value for the S and P 500 is?

What's amazing is how he can more accurately price the market than anyone else and yet he isn't just crushing it and making millions of dollars trading.

07-08-2016 , 09:36 PM

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What's amazing is how he can more accurately price the market than anyone else and yet he isn't just crushing it and making millions of dollars trading.

LOL! Fat porn troll trapped in a world of false dichotomy.

You have no idea what you're talking about, stop soul reading. You look desperate.

07-08-2016 , 10:06 PM

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=/=

07-08-2016 , 10:10 PM

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jiggs,

How inflated do you think the stock market is? What do you think the fair market value for the S and P 500 is?

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Bump

07-09-2016 , 01:01 AM

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Notice how I ignore the worst of the trolls who contribute nothing of substance to any thread they enter? You're a valuable lefty set-up man on that team.

In any event, you asked that same question months ago. It was answered. You even trolled when it dropped but didn't stay, as if that was the question. It wasn't. You asked where I thought it should be. Not where I predicted it would be. Given your awful track record, I sense you're attempting the same all over again.

You're pretty much dead to me. So... you know... GFY.

07-09-2016 , 01:04 AM

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Right, so you're not actually willing to say what you think the stock market should be valued at. What a shocker!

07-09-2016 , 01:06 AM

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And of course you won't comment on the broader question. Like, OK, let's say the stock market is overvalued. Seems plausible. But what's the big deal? The stock market has been overvalued before and will be overvalued again (or is right now).

07-09-2016 , 02:03 AM

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And of course you won't comment on the broader question. Like, OK, let's say the stock market is overvalued. Seems plausible. But what's the big deal? The stock market has been overvalued before and will be overvalued again (or is right now).

I guess years back when you insisted hypothetical $300 oil wouldn't be a big deal for the global economy, I realized I how massive the chasm was between our thought processes. Not really worth acknowledging a person after that.

Again, GFY.

07-09-2016 , 02:07 AM

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Right. You won't (actually can't) articulate why it's so important that the stock market is overvalued. You predictably run to insults and frantically try to deflect from that simple and reasonable question. Now run along.

07-09-2016 , 01:41 PM

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07-09-2016 , 06:03 PM

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Right. You won't (actually can't) articulate why it's so important that the stock market is overvalued.

You mean like when I did exactly that the last time you asked? Cool story.

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You predictably run to insults and frantically try to deflect from that simple and reasonable question. Now run along.

Ermmmm.... nooooo...... that would be you and yours.

Without trillions in money printing the past 8 years, I don't see how the S&P is much higher than 1,400-1,500 these days.

Of course, such "loose monetary policy" was only desperately required due to population overshoot up against the Earth's natural limits. I've shown that over and over again. It's not changing any time soon, nor will your keynesian heroes have any solutions that work. It's impossible to cure the patient when you're still missing the diagnosis.

07-09-2016 , 07:56 PM

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Right, without the fed appropriately stimulating the economy, the economy would be in much worse shape. Clearly. You haven't, of course, even come close to showing why that stimulus was not appropriate and prudent.

07-09-2016 , 09:35 PM

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'without our corruption, things would have been worse', factually true but lazy as well. the eu is sucking hard, for many of the same reasons the us system is a bad one.

07-09-2016 , 09:59 PM

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Right, so you're not actually willing to say what you think the stock market should be valued at. What a shocker!

A completely legitimate question when someone states the stock market is overvalued is asking them what is fair value. I tune them out if they are not willing to answer.

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