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Originally Posted by LirvA
You're conveniently ignoring the third party; the children. They are not in the situation voluntarily, so it is absolutely a violation of the NAP, and their rights...
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Originally Posted by Rothbard
...The rights of children, even more than those of parents, have been systematically invaded by the state... Supposedly “humanitarian” child labor laws have systematically forcibly prevented children from entering the labor force, thereby privileging their adult competitors. Forcibly prevented from working and earning a living...
Rothbard, who is the most famous expert on the NAP, and who even invented 'anarchism' itself, says you are 100% wrong about child labor violating the NAP. In fact, I've never even heard of any libertarian type who doesn't champion child labor. You are flat out wrong here.
Think about it... if you were right, it would mean the 'free market' was violating childrens rights. And that it took governmental interference, in the form of the "supposedly 'humanitarian' child labor laws" and using 'force', to protect those children from the 'free market'. Do you really wanna be go there?
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... The incidents you are referring to happened during the early days of the industrial revolution, yes? This was a period of great transitional change, and in any times of great change, there will be problems arising from individuals acting badly. You don't know that the practices would have continued forever without a government action...
Yes we do know. Well first of all we could try to use common sense... unfree labor is always going to be in demand, just look at the prison industry complex. But we don't even have to guess. We know for a fact because in parts of the third world Dept Peonage is still flousishing. In parts of the world no governments ever took any action, and as a matter of fact, unfree labor practices have continued to thrive all the way from the early Industrial Revolution... and are thriving today as we post. And this is all a direct result of the 'free market'.
Anyways, I did get 'anarchism' correct. That's what I'm taking away here.
Under 'anarchism' we have every reason to believe that children would work in coal mines, and sex workers would be indentured to brothels, even as children. None of this violates the NAP, and it would all be profitable under the 'free market'. And since you don't happen to own a power plant, all you would or could do was boycott/shun those brothels. And that would be that.
Once again, do I have this correct?
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... I understand that you want me to be the scapegoat...You like to use me as a scapegoat, and I understand that perfectly well.
This doesn't make the slightest sense to me, none at all. A 'scapegoat' is used as something to place the blame onto for doing something wrong. I haven't done anything wrong... so I have no blame to place on you, or anyone else for that matter.
And how would me asking you Qs about 'anarchism' possibly shift blame from me to you, even if I had done something wrong to begin with ?
? I can only guess this is some kinda drug induced paranoia on your part. !
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