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11-07-2016 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
you mean everyone free ID's? thats something I never thought about. the government targeting gifts to people based on the color of their skin would be wrong obviously
Yes, everyone should get free IDs if the govt requires the ID for voting purposes.
11-07-2016 , 04:50 PM
5ive is back trying to justify using the n-word again.... so racist.
11-07-2016 , 05:01 PM
i wouldnt say that he is racist cause he only has good intentions
but through some combination of factors he became fixated on race
what i am trying to achieve is to show him that this only hurts and helps no one

i tried using a didactic example of charity to suggest you can achive real change (whole life with sight as opposed to whole life without sight for one kid) by sacrificing just a little time (worth 20 quids) or in his case just stopping a destructive behaviour of insulting people

of course, i am not suggesting that he doesnt value this kid's eyesight, but that his obsession is preventing him from thinking clearly (any normal person values kid's eyesight more than his internet insults and would instantly say YES! to my offer)

i hope this will get him to think: "am i using my time and energy in positive and constructive manner?", "how much do i really care about a fellow human being?" "what can i do, to value him more?"

I think his "wat in the " response might actually signal that something has happened there (in his brains). some beneficial "frustration" so to speak.
11-07-2016 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
also your math could use some work

the odds we have eliminated a fraudulent vote would be close to 100%

the odds we have eliminated a poor vote is close to 100%

the odds you are eliminating the poor vote 100% is actually close to 0%
First, you haven't shown any proof that there is any voter fraud at all. You've been requested to back up your claims a few times in the last few posts and still have failed, instead, operating under the assumption that it MUST happen at least once. I'll even grant you that there are 100 fraudulent votes.

Your stance is based on the idea that eliminating even one single fraudulent vote (which you can't even tell us even happens, but I digress) is more important than stopping the suppression of thousands of votes, which we DO know is happening.

And then you make nonsense claim as though that just washes the whole thing away like if one poor person votes, it doesn't matter if 999,999 of them can't. Intellectual dishonesty or learning disability? It's one of the two.
11-07-2016 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
First, you haven't shown any proof that there is any voter fraud at all. You've been requested to back up your claims a few times in the last few posts and still have failed, instead, operating under the assumption that it MUST happen at least once. I'll even grant you that there are 100 fraudulent votes.

Your stance is based on the idea that eliminating even one single fraudulent vote (which you can't even tell us even happens, but I digress) is more important than stopping the suppression of thousands of votes, which we DO know is happening.

And then you make nonsense claim as though that just washes the whole thing away like if one poor person votes, it doesn't matter if 999,999 of them can't. Intellectual dishonesty or learning disability? It's one of the two.
oh is this post about intellectual dishonesty and learning disabilities?

i made it very clear multiple times that the agenda is biased and to shift votes in their favor. the method they are choosing to do this is by introducing a procedure to crack down on voter fraud

voter fraud happens. dead people vote. anyone with an ounce of logic knows that if you own a store that shoplifting happens. if someone is telling you no shoplifting happens and that you dont need to crack down on security challenges you to find proof that shoplifting happened, you would point to inventory since there is no surveillance. just like you would point to dead people voting since there is no ID required. on a scale of 10's of millions, to demand proof that fraud exists is absurd

if you are going to start calling people racist over this maybe your belief that a certain race cant comply with a regulation to provide ID is racist
11-07-2016 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gu14g
i wouldnt say that he is racist cause he only has good intentions
but through some combination of factors he became fixated on race
what i am trying to achieve is to show him that this only hurts and helps no one

i tried using a didactic example of charity to suggest you can achive real change (whole life with sight as opposed to whole life without sight for one kid) by sacrificing just a little time (worth 20 quids) or in his case just stopping a destructive behaviour of insulting people

of course, i am not suggesting that he doesnt value this kid's eyesight, but that his obsession is preventing him from thinking clearly (any normal person values kid's eyesight more than his internet insults and would instantly say YES! to my offer)

i hope this will get him to think: "am i using my time and energy in positive and constructive manner?", "how much do i really care about a fellow human being?" "what can i do, to value him more?"

I think his "wat in the " response might actually signal that something has happened there (in his brains). some beneficial "frustration" so to speak.
The "wat in the" was in reference to your 1st paragraph. We're not even at the 2nd or 3rd yet.

This wasn't a huge clue:

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Originally Posted by 5ive
Nope, I reread the thread title. I'm not hallucinating. Good news!
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11-07-2016 , 05:46 PM
I never called you racist. If I was you, I'd say something about guilty conscious or some nonsense. My commentary isn't about color. But here you go, redirecting the argument so we can't talk about things you're wrong about.
11-07-2016 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
5ive is back trying to justify using the n-word again.... so racist.
See, that might happen as part of a rebuttal after you make an argument. Cogency, remember?

At this point it's just some dudes getting rustled behind me using the Provocateur's Thesaurus.
11-07-2016 , 06:01 PM
FWIW I thought the find/replace job on "leftist" was unhelpful and inadvisable :P
11-07-2016 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
Intellectual dishonesty or learning disability? It's one of the two.
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
if you are going to start calling people racist over this maybe your belief that a certain race cant comply with a regulation to provide ID is racist
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
I never called you racist. If I was you, I'd say something about guilty conscious or some nonsense. My commentary isn't about color. But here you go, redirecting the argument so we can't talk about things you're wrong about.
ok champ

i will help you out. obviously the words "if" and "people" have been highlighted for a reason. these things are being called racist. my name is not people. you and i arent alone on the internet. this is message board where sometimes the nature of the language used helps you understand if i am speaking directly to you or the narrative. words like if and people make this crystal clear to anyone who is being intellectually honest and doesnt have a learning disability
11-07-2016 , 06:06 PM
lookit juan v go

Spoiler:
11-07-2016 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
FWIW I thought the find/replace job on "leftist" was unhelpful and inadvisable :P
We're two sides of the same coin in this here struggle, but you know that.

And I'm not shooting from the hip, I actually believe that's a dogwhistle and a fairly obvious one imo.
11-07-2016 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
FWIW I thought the find/replace job on "leftist" was unhelpful and inadvisable :P
He knows that. He just thought it would be a clever way to slip in the n-word that he likes to use. Now he's trying to backpedal and pretend that he didn't enjoy it. Only a full-blown racist would use the word like that. He probably learned it from Drudge.
11-07-2016 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
He knows that. He just thought it would be a clever way to slip in the n-word that he likes to use. Now he's trying to backpedal and pretend that he didn't enjoy it. Only a full-blown racist would use the word like that.
Another very obvious thing is that you've been in full-troll-mode for a while now, but by all means.
11-07-2016 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
We're talking about minority groups and Republican outreach. You lose Mexicans if your plan is to enforce border laws.
I guess it's a good thing Mexicans can't vote in our elections for you guys then, huh?
11-07-2016 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
ok champ

i will help you out. obviously the words "if" and "people" have been highlighted for a reason. these things are being called racist. my name is not people. you and i arent alone on the internet. this is message board where sometimes the nature of the language used helps you understand if i am speaking directly to you or the narrative. words like if and people make this crystal clear to anyone who is being intellectually honest and doesnt have a learning disability
So about that voter fraud....
11-07-2016 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
Another very obvious thing is that you've been in full-troll-mode for a while now, but by all means.
11-07-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
So about that voter fraud....
intellectual honesty?

oh apparently this also covers learning disability. do you want me to repeat myself? its just a front to suppress votes for the other party. Tighter regulation would create less fraud or at minimum make it more difficult to commit voter fraud, but thats obviously not why they care. vote surpression

high five
11-07-2016 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
Can't help but notice how many censored words and perjorative labels come from the leftists here, while their opponents are collected and articulate.
Owmyfreakinears.wav
11-07-2016 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Dead people vote Democrat 10-1, but they only seem to vote if there are no voter ID. Those evil Republicans, trying to suppress the vote of dead people, the least privileged class in society.
HOOOOORRRRSSSSEEEESHIIIIIITTTTT
11-07-2016 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
exactly

except one party is calling the other party racist here. its also the same party that doesnt want to enforce immigration laws and actually creates obstacles for local law enforcement to deal with illegal immigrants when they come in contact. The left knows these policies that dont enforce the law benefit them in the voting booth. their defense in this situation is, once again, calling everyone racist

its interesting to note though. the left in both cases wants to ignore perfectly reasonable laws to suit their best interests and call the other side racist. the right wants to enforce reasonable and fair laws to suit their best interest

no ID opens the door for voter fraud. obviously their motivation is greater than that but its just the truth. suppressing voter ID obviously increases fraud

and of course all of this brings us back to the grand delusion of the left. claiming moral superiority while they arrogantly try to go over the law when it suits them while the right is trying to uphold the law because it suits them
I am 100% in favor of every citizen being issued a free ID delivered directly to their home address. Are you on board with that?
11-07-2016 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
I am 100% in favor of every citizen being issued a free ID delivered directly to their home address. Are you on board with that?
i haven't thought about it but its safe to say these two things

1) everyone loves free stuff

2) things that are "free" are rarely free

oh and is it too soon to talk about your idea to make abortion clinics more accessible to black people? that always tickles me
11-07-2016 , 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gu14g
i wouldnt say that he is racist cause he only has good intentions
but through some combination of factors he became fixated on race
what i am trying to achieve is to show him that this only hurts and helps no one

i tried using a didactic example of charity to suggest you can achive real change (whole life with sight as opposed to whole life without sight for one kid) by sacrificing just a little time (worth 20 quids) or in his case just stopping a destructive behaviour of insulting people

of course, i am not suggesting that he doesnt value this kid's eyesight, but that his obsession is preventing him from thinking clearly (any normal person values kid's eyesight more than his internet insults and would instantly say YES! to my offer)

i hope this will get him to think: "am i using my time and energy in positive and constructive manner?", "how much do i really care about a fellow human being?" "what can i do, to value him more?"

I think his "wat in the " response might actually signal that something has happened there (in his brains). some beneficial "frustration" so to speak.
Did Chezlaw get a new screenname?
11-07-2016 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
oh is this post about intellectual dishonesty and learning disabilities?

i made it very clear multiple times that the agenda is biased and to shift votes in their favor. the method they are choosing to do this is by introducing a procedure to crack down on voter fraud

voter fraud happens. dead people vote. anyone with an ounce of logic knows that if you own a store that shoplifting happens. if someone is telling you no shoplifting happens and that you dont need to crack down on security challenges you to find proof that shoplifting happened, you would point to inventory since there is no surveillance. just like you would point to dead people voting since there is no ID required. on a scale of 10's of millions, to demand proof that fraud exists is absurd

if you are going to start calling people racist over this maybe your belief that a certain race cant comply with a regulation to provide ID is racist
Do you have any proof that dead people vote in person? Because my best guess is dead votes come from absentee ballots. You know, those that aren't solved by requiring id
11-07-2016 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Do you have any proof that dead people vote in person? Because my best guess is dead votes come from absentee ballots. You know, those that aren't solved by requiring id
what if they do, what if they don't?

the point is pretty obvious. It seems like you have bought some weird narrative and missed the plot

      
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