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To be fair most of them couldn't vote as they don't own property so they'd probably be looked by the Founding Fathers at as a wild herd to be managed

One clue that this is the alternate time line is that if libertarians were the staunch fighters against slavery in Civil War why did the libertarians of 2010 or whenever create the biggest politics thread ever for apologetics for the Southern slave holders that eventually lead to them being exiled from 2 + 2 politics?

Lol, someone sure got under 5ive's skin itt.

fyp

When I would tutor math, sometimes I would explain something that most people grasped immediately but for some reason a certain pupil wouldn't be able to figure it out by just looking at it. Of course, there was a moment in my head where I said "Wait, really??" and then I would remember that some people may just not see things quite the same way, or maybe they have learning disabilities and that I would have to exert a little bit more effort to help the person understand what most people would consider a very obvious and simple concept.

Well sure, I'm just going by their assumptions. In reality there weren't people we would call libertarians around during the Civil War. The "proto-libertarians" saw capitalism as a force for good because it euthanized the poor by starving them to death.

The real reason Hispanics don't go to the Republican Party is because we already have a diverse multi racial identity friendly political party who's friendly to capital in the US, why would we need two?

I don't think there is any amount of effort one could exert that would help leftists get over their inability to understand.

Yup, the conservative mindset is just to ****ed up to be understood.

Um. It's not a lack of understanding. It's a disagreement. I'll grant that there are really stupid people on both sides, but to assume left leaning people are left because they're just too dumb to know what's best for themselves is laughable at best.

I think leftism is a position where politics is deliberately placed before reason. It's an attempt to paper over certain uncomfortable truths, such that you can live in a simpler word that aligns with your political/moral desires, in a way that's difficult to do if you admit the truth or uncertainty of certain things. It's not that leftists are unintentionally stupid (the smarter ones, anyway), it's that they're wilfully stupid, or rather, dismissing of reason where it leads to uncomfortable places or conflicts with "noble" political goals.

To put aside reason so fundamentally to achieve a political end, even a noble one, feels corrupting and wrong to me, and one that ends up in bad places. But I recognize that all people do it in some way. It's the groupthink of it which I think is pernicious, and the kind of group-reinforced reality-drift that creates. Ultimately societies and political philosophies that don't sufficiently factor in uncomfortable realities get conquered by those who do.

The inherent irrationality of left wing politics would certainly explain the erratic behaviour we see from the forum leftists, like musing upon the benefits of pigeon rape when asked about gay marriage, or thinking modern art is proof of a Satanic cult in the government.

This might miss the mark, but I don't feel that wanting universal healthcare for all a country's citizens is a ploy for power just because it draws a big portion of the 'poor vote' or whatever reason you are making your assumptions from. I just think we should all have healthcare. Maybe you think that makes me a weak person. I don't care, that's fine. If votes are the reason a person holds a stance on an issue, if they enact the policy and they don't start world war 3, then does it really matter?

The best post-fixing people, the best.

Come on now Reid, the Blacks aren't gonna die off if we just give them medicine all willy-nilly.




Wiily-nilly.

You're right. Both extremes are just too f:cked to understand.

A) He said "conservative mindset", nothing about extremes, and,
B) That's tilting to say "You're right." (ok, fair enough, moving on), but then say the thing kerowo's right about is the extremes of both parties being too fked to understand.

Like,

Oroku$aki, I see your off topic white old man ranting Hollywood actor, and raise you Farrakhan:



Y'all are voting for the corrupt dangerous warmongering racist. But we know you secretly hate black people.

In this thread? I'm pretty sure my posts her line up with my general stance on fool-suffering.

On the other hand BP seems a bit rustled, considering he made all these posts:

5ive,
If you're liberal you're doing a good job of proving that liberals are the real racists. Walls of text from White Supremacist sites, editing posts to give them racial epithets...you're either 12 and mom's not supervising your Internet usage, or you're a southern White Supremacist pretending to be liberal so you can post stuff that's dear to your heart.

Farrakhan and The Nation are like the nut low best-friends-are-black names to drop. The Nation killed Malcolm, **** those mother****ers.

Uggghhh you're so bad at this part.

You're much better at the 1000 word screeds filled with multilevel inception dogwhistles.

Remember, if you hear it, you're the dog...

Srsly tho, expound on this, especially the bold. That quote is your shortest post ever. I'm sure you have another 1 or 2000 words at the ready.