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Building 7 was decimated by the falling north tower and burned out of control for seven full hours before it collapsed.

Also you are a self evident idiot given in two posts you talk about pancake drops and how multiple WTC buildings were hit by debris in the collapse.

05-27-2013 , 06:11 PM

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Sommerset

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Originally Posted by zebkiwi

building 7 being hit is the worst counter ever, it came down demo style, buildings 345 and 6 which are CLOSER to the 2 towers were hit much worse but still stood, even if rubble had taken out 25% of the building it would still be standing

unsupported assertions

05-27-2013 , 06:14 PM

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rjoefish

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As an American this thread certainly has me worried about wtf is going on. How can people be this stupid?

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05-27-2013 , 06:59 PM

#29

zebkiwi

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dont worry guys, NDAA or "indefinite detention" is just for the "terrorists"

nevermind the kid who was arrested for posting rap lyrics on facebook

speech will always be free in America, protesters will not be arrested and banker criminals will be, and so forth and so forth

05-27-2013 , 07:02 PM

#30

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Originally Posted by zebkiwi

Which rage against the machine song are you listening to right now? It's Guerrilla Radio... isn't it?

05-27-2013 , 07:45 PM

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dishwasher22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

This is from memory, but it covers it as best you need:

The buildings didnt pancake, WTC 2 (iirc) fell into WTC 7 to start the fire that burned out of control for like 10 hours before that building fell. I think WTC 1 fell over massively and hit like three other smaller WTC building too.

But they would also fall relatively straight down rather than just toppling to the side entirely due to the way they dropped. Basically imagine it with each floor held up by support beams, then you take out the 30th or 40th floor from the top, the weight of those 30 floors is going to be massive and it will drop about 10 foot then impact the next floor - that is a massive amount of force, but one that the supports will hold against for a fraction of a fraction of a second.

What you basically create is a rapid but noticeable concertina effect as each floor's supports give out so the horizontal movement will be very small. Basically the building wasnt constructed the same way as a house where walls have support, the support was in a central core with the building kinda like a bunch of doughnuts built around that core so as they gave out lateral movement would be minimal relatively speaking.

The "explosions" are caused by the effect of the floors giving out as the above ones fall on them, basically air is pushed out of windows rapidly giving an actual explosion but one caused by pneumatic pressure and not explosives.

Look, here is the deal. All the 9/11 conspiracies have been debunked. Literally all of them. You will spend your time better just ignoring it entirely, but if you do any research start by finding out what the claim is, look up the debunking of it, then go back to the conspiracy theory and lol at how dumb they are. Cos they are.

Thanks for the post. Definitely interesting and I like your explanation on the 'explosions'. This is a video of the website I have gotten a lot of my information from so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=hZEvA8BCoBw#!

I also think the person who mentioned the passports is very interesting. How do we find passports but there is basically no luggage around the pentagon or flight 93 (at least from the photo's I have seen)? That part doesn't seem to make sense.

05-27-2013 , 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TomCollins

YES, time for this forum to get full blown AIDS!

Interesting that you'd choose a disease that the government created.

05-27-2013 , 08:15 PM

#33

zebkiwi

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Saddam was changing the currency he was selling oil in from the US dollar to Euro, this was mentioned in 2000

Uncle Sam went in and changed that

How ***** obvious does it need to be that this entire "war on terror" is a load of horse shyte

Also, the US is arming "rebels" another name for Islamic terrorists in Syria as we speak, so the US supports terrorism, prove that wrong- hint: you cant

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05-27-2013 , 08:17 PM

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Mr.mmmKay

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Do you guys think drones destroyed the towers?

05-27-2013 , 08:19 PM

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Building 7 is the key. We have the owner of the building commanding the firemen (who work for the government, btw--union jobs too) to "Blast it!" That's a direct quote of the guy in charge. Moments later, the thermite bombs were detonated. Not sure what they are hiding in that building. Thermite was discovered as far away as Hoboken, which was confirmed by Tel Aviv International university.

05-27-2013 , 08:22 PM

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Oh, and it gets weirder. One of the survivors from the North Tower was a janitor at Sandy Hook elementary and called in sick on the day the kids were shot. Also, he ran the Boston marathon four years in a row but mysteriously didn't run this year (claimed plantar fasciitis, iirc) His name was Herman something--saw it on the Brown Divider's Youtube channel before it got deleted.

05-27-2013 , 08:45 PM

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However, office fires would not be enough to take down a building

You're right, but ignite a full tank of jet fuel and see what happens.

05-27-2013 , 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPoppa

You're right, but ignite a full tank of jet fuel and see what happens.

Actually, funny enough, he is wrong. An office fire gets ridiculously hot when left to burn out of control. More than hot enough to weaken steel support beams.

05-27-2013 , 09:03 PM

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Dude GTFO with this conspiracy crap. He didn't call in sick, it was his day off!

And I've seen pics of his plantar fasciitis. You can't fake something like that.

05-27-2013 , 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

Politics Unhinged.

lol yes

05-27-2013 , 09:27 PM

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Bretty12345

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Dude GTFO with this conspiracy crap. He didn't call in sick, it was his day off!

And I've seen pics of his plantar fasciitis. You can't fake something like that.

Gold i tell you. Pure ****ing Gold.

05-27-2013 , 10:36 PM

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I'm not saying all idiots are truthers, but its an indisputable fact that all truthers are idiots.

05-27-2013 , 10:43 PM

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SuperUberBob

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The Jews did it. Amazing that people haven't figured it out yet.

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/in...p?topic=5367.0

05-27-2013 , 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

Actually, funny enough, he is wrong. An office fire gets ridiculously hot when left to burn out of control. More than hot enough to weaken steel support beams.

cite

05-27-2013 , 11:18 PM

#45

LirvA

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God destroyed 7/11 cause he's a *** and they quit carrying condoms.

05-27-2013 , 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LirvA

cite

No. Go look up the NIST report yourself.

05-27-2013 , 11:24 PM

#47

LirvA

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Cite it bitch!

05-27-2013 , 11:25 PM

#48

LirvA

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I print a copy of it, come over to the empire and shove it up your ass, torrey!

05-27-2013 , 11:25 PM

#49

LirvA

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god I love this forum

05-27-2013 , 11:35 PM

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rjoefish

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Because when you resort to '**** you!' when you can't use your own words to explain a utoob or your catchphrases that make up your ******ed ideology you're not banned for it?

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