Unfortunately, given trump is president and is making noises about it, I don't see how this isn't a political topic.

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I'm almost always right about everything, to be honest.


Firstly, USA #1 is correct. I somewhat agree with you, there is definitely bias, but that bias is inherent in us as humans. To blame all bias on racism is pretty laughable.

You could make an argument that the deck is stacked up more against African Americans. It's an easy argument to make, knowing the facts. On average, we crush blacks in income and education. We've been discriminated against and had laws that prohibited us in many ways. Yet blacks have achieved much more in this country than we have. Why?

In number, sure, in general, not.

Quote, please.

The old "I don't know" defense. It may be culture when it comes to Asian failure, but it's definitely NOT culture when it comes to black failure. Got it.

Nope, I'm looking at it like a rational, logical person.

By some factors, absolutely. Look at black single-motherhood rates and the timeline.

Do you have any idea of what the **** you are talking about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...nese_Americans

The Chinese did not, however, only come for the gold rush in California, but also helped build the First Transcontinental Railroad, worked the southern plantations after the Civil War, and participated in setting up California's agriculture and fisheries

From the outset, they were faced with the racism of settled European population, which since the 1870s culminated in massacres and forced relocations of Chinese migrants into what became known as Chinatowns.[18] Also with regard to the legal situation, the Chinese were by far more badly posed in the United States than most other ethnic minorities. They had to pay special taxes (all foreign miners had to pay a tax of $20 a month), were not allowed to marry white European partners and could not acquire U.S. citizenship


They are "my people" because we share many of the same cultural values. They are also "my people" because physically we look so similar that "your people" lump us all into one group. Trust me, I have no particular love for the Chinese or the Japanese. The only people I truly care about in this world are my family and friends. That being said, I identify as American first, then Korean, then Asian. There is nothing "ugly" about what I identify as, for you to make that claim is bizarre, to be honest.

Of course I do. There is a huge difference. Why do you think there are differences between the groups labelled "Asian"? The Vietnamese and Laotians are typically in different categories than the Koreans or the Japanese. Do you really think I don't understand why?

Some of the poorest people in the entire country are the Chinese who are living in Chinatowns.

Look it up.

I wouldn't have expected you to get that Chinatown reference.

That's why you're a Republican.

It's not the GOP ethos at all. What supports your claim in the least bit?

For reals, did you think this was new information for any of us?

You have a sample size of exactly one on which to base this.

What's this? You've misunderstood a very straightforward point.



As expected from a philistine, you have a very narrow definition of achievement. On the one hand you're saying that US Orientals have much higher income and qualifications, on the other you're saying that US blacks have achieved more. If you add in top academics, scientists and people who own their own companies to your list (which seems to be exclusively people who wil318466 has heard of), you might see a very different picture.


I cite every instance on these boards of you blowing your top instead of defending or attacking an argument. There are very, very many of these and I don't intend to spend several hours collating them all.



This is another logical fallacy on your part. To say that racism in society affects the achievements of an ethnic group doesn't exclude other factors from also influencing it.



Apparently not.



Look at the same for whites.


Please show the part of that page that describes where people were imported from Asia with the specific intention of turning them into slaves for white Americans.

Slavery for blacks in America was particularly onerous for many reasons. People were bought and sold at markets. Children were automatically property. Ownership rights were essentially without limit.

But, there certainly was a lot of what amounted to slavery with Chinese labor in the US. They were not slaves for "white Americans" but were often essentially unfree labor for the railroads.

What, you are a hater now? I mean this is pretty much the easiest thing to admit ever. America #1. America #1 of all time, in all of human history. It's not even close. Who else can even come close to 1/10th of our power or influence right now? Russia? China? Britain? France? Lol, nope x 4.

How about in the history of the world? The Romans, the English the Mongols? Who?

Don't hate. It's a bad look.


It all depends on your argument. Just like it's possible to argue America is #1 in education and America is #27 in education. I'm in the #1 camp. You are in the #27 camp.



I don't blow my top. I mostly don't even care, I mean, in reality I'm simply wasting my time arguing with fat nerds on the internet. Sometimes it's fun, sometimes not so much. Arguing with you is kind of pointless, honestly.


Please, make the argument where it helps, then we can extrapolate from there and see where we can help other groups. Please, White man, teach me since I'm a dumb ass minority. Please, YOU tell ME what REAL racism is.

You're not dumb because you're part of a minority wil.

I'm not dumb at all. You may disagree with me, but calling me dumb is not accurate.

America #1 though, baby.